Catch 22 Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/tom-brady-beats-nfl-deflategate-court-case-judge-33505549 Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 The NFL is a joke. Glad he won (not even a Brady fan). Roger Goodell is the biggest idiot in professional sports. 1 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 Watched it break on ESPN. Of course there'll be an appeal, and if ruling overturned, Brady would face 4 game suspension during the season when games could matter more. Players gave Goodell too much power.... Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 I'm happy. A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User BrianinMD Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 They had 0 evidence Brady did anything wrong and the NFL contradicted their own report in testimony before the judge. The decision was obvious. Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 I'm disappointed. Quote
rboat Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Sure we all destroy our cellphones for no good reason, How much did Kraft pay the judge? Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 Sure we all destroy our cellphones for no good reason, How much did Kraft pay the judge? The NFL made that part up. From SB Nation As for what was on the phone, Brady says that they turned over "detailed pages" of phone records and all of the emails requested by the Wells investigators. They also went to the phone company to retrieve the relevant messages from his broken phone. The NFL acknowledged that last part in the 20-page statement explaining Goodell's decision, buried in a footnote on page 12. 1 Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 I'm happy. A-Jay Me too...unfortunately folks outside of 495 still thinks he's a cheater, which is sad, really. 1 Quote
Fun4Me Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 I don't really care if Brady knew or not, none of us really know if he knew, I'm just interested to see what the NFL does going forward. I have to imagine they're going to appeal it, and they very well may win on appeal. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 If "The NFL" chooses to appeal and Draaaaag this out even longer, they will have fully achieved WWE status. Just let it go man. A-Jay 2 Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 I am indifferent. I am not a Pats fan, and think their past indiscretions color the lense through which most of us see this. With that said, the NFL has made a real mess of this. I recntly heard a discussion of how MLB handled players using gloves bigger than legal a number of years ago. It had gotten out of hand. They informed the glove companies and the players that this would no longer be acceptable and it stopped. If the NFL had used this model we would not be having this discussion. The NFL has completely failed in its handling of this IMO. Quote
Fun4Me Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 At this point, it's not about Brady, it's about the opening of the flood gates to anyone and everyone taking their punishment from the NFL to court. I just heard that Greg Hardy is considering taking his case to court now. I believe the NFL will fight this recent decision because if they don't, they're never going to be able to discipline a player again without it going to court, every time. The CBA was written a certain way, and I would think that the NFL would challenge the ruling on that basis. 1 Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 Goodell was the commissioner. The judge made him the eunuch of the NFL. Quote
Super User gardnerjigman Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 Man... Brady... Patriots... These threads are starting to turn into the "what 5 baits would you take here" or "what 2 rods would you take here" threads! It's still baseball season! lol 2 Quote
Fun4Me Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 I'm trying to distract myself from thinking about all the Royals potentially getting the measles LOL!!! 1 Quote
Super User gardnerjigman Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 I'm trying to distract myself from thinking about all the Royals potentially getting the measles LOL!!! Ah, it's no big deal. Just a few guys that hadn't been vaccinated catching the chicken pocks. Rios will be smacking RBI's and herrara will be throwing 103mph fastballs in a few weeks! Quote
Subaqua Adinterim Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Thank god we live in the USA, where you can find fairness in the court system to clear your good name. Of course you need lots of money to do it. This is a classic case of the out of touch, so far up in their ivory towers that they are unable to apply a common sense business approach to the simplest of problems. A CEO in any other industry would be shown the door for this type of thing. Maybe this is what will happen to Goodell, who knows. Of course he works for the owners, most of who are far removed from reality, some of who encouraged this nonsense. Quote
Fun4Me Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Ah, it's no big deal. Just a few guys that hadn't been vaccinated catching the chicken pocks. Rios will be smacking RBI's and herrara will be throwing 103mph fastballs in a few weeks! Oh yeah, it was the chicken pox wasn't it. my mistake. Yeah I think they'll be fine, just seemed like an odd story. I'm just happy that I can finally show my face as a Royals fan over last couple years and not get laughed at ha ha! Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 Thank god we live in the USA, where you can find fairness in the court system to clear your good name. Of course you need lots of money to do it. This is a classic case of the out of touch, so far up in their ivory towers that they are unable to apply a common sense business approach to the simplest of problems. A CEO in any other industry would be shown the door for this type of thing. Maybe this is what will happen to Goodell, who knows. Of course he works for the owners, most of who are far removed from reality, some of who encouraged this nonsense. Who's out of touch? The owners? The players? I'll vote for both. Quote
Ohio Dave Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 There is no way that a high school qb that is even vaguely decent does not know instantly that the ball is too soft. Heck even a lineman with stone hands could tell the difference in a couple of pounds of pressure. He knew and cheated anyway. I don't care about smoking guns or non sense: He violated the trust of the game as Bill has also done with video taping and other underhanded bs. Kraft loves to paint himself as a man of integrity but he is a fraud as are their championships 2 Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 Why were the teams ever in charge of the footballs anyway? It should have ALWAYS been the job of the officials. MLB umpires are the only ones in charge of game balls. It would be silly to let the teams be in charge of them. Quote
FinCulture Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
VolFan Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 He had the way he liked the balls. The equip managers made them that way. Did either know the actual parameters, or even that there were actual parameters? Is this worse than wearing the wrong cleats? I. Couldn't. Care. Less. NFL should provide the balls, and then none of this is remotely an issue. Did anyone check every other quarterback's balls for a control? Quote
Super User BrianinMD Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 Well Volfan, about the other QB balls being checked. The Patriots were not the only team with deflated balls in that game. This is another thing which goes on all the time, other QB's even admitted to it in public they had it done. The same with the prior video taping, they were not the only ones, just the ones called out. The NFL was in a bad spot when it went to federal court where actual evidence and procedure are required. Not the half done job of people who think they run everything. Quote
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