NotnatsSamoht Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Why is there no wiki information for anything fishing related, I can find what year a car changed its engine, but not what year a reel was discontinued, or a lure was invented. Just curious, I like to google everything but when it come to fishing stuff, information is limited. 1 Quote
Rhino68W Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 We are a surprisingly small crowd. And it's people like us that should put that information out there. 1 Quote
Super User bigbill Posted September 2, 2015 Super User Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) I been purchasing new discounted older rods and reels they work but like us I don't know how old they are. The rods with the chrome eyes I retired 60's/70's. There in my museum. But I'm not sure how old my new LEWS SPEED STICKS are. My museum goes back to bamboo fly rods, steel telescopic fly rods to steel baitcaster rods. I have the old reels and new line for them on the original spools. Don't know how old. There's no history book on fishing equipment. Edited September 2, 2015 by bigbill 1 Quote
Super User Senko lover Posted September 2, 2015 Super User Posted September 2, 2015 No Wikipedia on fishing?? Uh.....try Bass Resource! Ask any question and I can almost guarantee you it will be answered satisfactorily. Quote
Super User Scott F Posted September 2, 2015 Super User Posted September 2, 2015 I checked 3 different terms. Fly fishing, bass fishing and centerpin fishing and all 3 had Wikipedia entries. So there are fishing related Wiki entries. I also checked bass and Bass Angler Sportsman Society those were both in there too. I was 5 for 5 finding fishing related entries. Quote
NotnatsSamoht Posted September 3, 2015 Author Posted September 3, 2015 I checked 3 different terms. Fly fishing, bass fishing and centerpin fishing and all 3 had Wikipedia entries. So there are fishing related Wiki entries. I also checked bass and Bass Angler Sportsman Society those were both in there too. I was 5 for 5 finding fishing related entries. Yes there is some information, but I'm talking in depth timelines, product history, who invented things, when production stopped, and other information Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 Wikipedia is not a good source for information. Sure it can be accurate but it doesn't have to be as it is created by anyone who wants to put a page up. There is a reason it is not permitted to be used as a source for any type of research paper or study.As far as what you are looking for goes, fisherman are a small group in the grand scheme of things and an even smaller group want the information you are wanting to know. If you want that kind of information start contacting companies or searching through their websites an see what yo can find and create a database. For me personally i have no desire to know that type of information and the time it would take to put that together would be pretty immense. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 Yes there's a small group of just 50,000 here at Bass Resource. Got a question? Ask! 3 Quote
Super User MIbassyaker Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 Sounds like you're talking about, not wikipedia, but a community wiki that would serve as a repository of detailed, searchable, cross-referenced information about fishing equipment and such. The simple answer is, it doesn't exist because nobody has taken it upon themselves to make one.Given how many lures, rods, reels, and other equipment there has been, that would be an enormous undertaking. Bass resource is probably the next best thing. Quote
Kentuckysteve Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Yes there is some information, but I'm talking in depth timelines, product history, who invented things, when production stopped, and other information I collect antique lures and fishing equipment and as far as the old stuff like heddon and creekchub and the older companies,there is a lot of history available with timelines and dates but back then production was at a minimum compared to today.There were only so many companies and products on the market.Most of the stuff was american made and records were kept and easy to find today.But there came a time when bass fishing exploded into the market that we see today and there are lots of companies.The equipment is mass produced in factories by the thousands if not more.They produce them as fast as the demand calls for them and they are not worried about history.They are more about the money.A lot of this stuff is produced overseas and imported and theres just no way of keeping up with all of it.I agree there should be someway to research this stuff.I enjoy reading about the old rods and lures and when certain things stopped being produced or changed to a newer product but im an older fart. -Steve Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted September 3, 2015 Super User Posted September 3, 2015 Yeah, I googled "when did silly fresh water anglers start casting umbrellas" and nothing came up.... Quote
Sea NaCl Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Yeah, I googled "when did silly fresh water anglers start casting umbrellas" and nothing came up.... I don't see whats wrong with umbrella rigs. 1 Quote
Josh Smith Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 Know what? Why don't we just build a fishing Wiki? I just checked, and "fishing wiki" is a popular search term. Bass Resource could link up to it/host it. It may be redundant given the articles here, however. But you do say you're looking for specific info on rod and reel changes, and that, I think, may be beyond the scope of the current Bass Resource articles as it would be fairly specialized info. This is where the wiki would be good. Josh Quote
ClackerBuzz Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 for detailed rod/reel comparisons try tackletour.com Quote
Silas Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 I wouldn't look up ANYTHING. In Wiki!!!! It's like asking someone on the street about anything. Of course, I happen to like factual information from an experienced reliable source. Those entries could have been written by a 10th grader that's failing in school. Same goes for U TUBE!!! 1 Quote
NotnatsSamoht Posted September 6, 2015 Author Posted September 6, 2015 I wouldn't look up ANYTHING. In Wiki!!!! It's like asking someone on the street about anything. Of course, I happen to like factual information from an experienced reliable source. Those entries could have been written by a 10th grader that's failing in school. Same goes for U TUBE!!! But if I used that logic I wouldn't be able to trust anyone on the forum either. 3 Quote
Super User bigbill Posted September 6, 2015 Super User Posted September 6, 2015 The first telescopic steel rods where manufactured by a Quaker I believe I read about it. They didn't believe in fishing. So this machinest made his fishing rods telescopic so he could sneak out and go fishing. I know the steel fishing rods aren't worth much but i find them interesting. I think in time everything becomes collectable. I still have my first 1973 D.A.M. QUICK 110 spinning reel on its original Garcia five star UL spinning rod. I'm at a antique shop a couple years ago and see my quick reel for $70. My first buy of better fishing equipment is antique now. Take care of your equipment it might be antique someday. I have a very old Fenwick UL ROD too. So old the eyes string rotted off. It needs to be retied someday. Quote
Josh Smith Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Silas, You might be surprised at the checks and balances in Wikipedia. No, it's not 100% accurate, but it's pretty good. I contribute to Wikipedia and know something of the process. There are doctors and lawyers who donate their time to their areas, too. Josh 1 Quote
Super User bigbill Posted September 6, 2015 Super User Posted September 6, 2015 I now wonder what was the pre-steel fishing rods like? Bamboo? Fly rods? Baitcasters? I'm not sure when or who invented the first fishing rod? 7' or 8'+ straight bamboo rods? No reel yet? Fishing equipment evolution? Like; Fishing rods Fishing reels Fishing hooks Fishing bombers cork and wood Fishing line. Metal tackle boxes Wooden lures. Early plastic lures There's no history of fishing tackle. I have no old timers in my family left to ask? Quote
Super User Catt Posted September 8, 2015 Super User Posted September 8, 2015 Y'all need to visit Bass Fishing Archives http://bassfishingarchives.com/ Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 9, 2015 Super User Posted September 9, 2015 Thanks Catt, good link with lots of memories. Tom Quote
Super User Catt Posted September 9, 2015 Super User Posted September 9, 2015 Bass Fishing Archives has the most comprehensive collection of bass fishing history from original articles, from the original magazines, by the original authors, as well as original interviews. If y'all really want to find out the "true" history of bass fishing then simply click on the link or y'all can keep on believing myths! And yes bigbill the covers, rods, reels, line, lures, boats, motors; every thing is included! Quote
Kentuckysteve Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 Thats a great site.Thanks for posting it.I remember alot of those ads.Its pretty cool to see some of the lures they used back in the day and how advanced they are now.Also neat seeing some of the lures that never really quite made it or got pushed out because of newer technology.Biggest change is the prices on some of them.One add had a trial offer-6 packs of worms for $5.We can hardly find 1 pack for that now.Some of the early crankbaits were just over $1 apiece.Glad someone thought to come up with this site. Quote
jignfule Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 Wiki's got it there, as clear as day, just look under "ECSTASY" Quote
FrankW Posted September 12, 2015 Posted September 12, 2015 Your best bet for historical information is the Collector sites. Some of the collectors know a heck of a lot about their particular interest. Most will answer questions if you contact them. One problem is most people collect quality equipment or very old equipment. When I started fishing you had two choices of equipment. A bamboo fly rod or a bamboo casting rod. No spinning equipment, no mono. Fly lines were silk and we used catgut leaders. If you wanted to learn to fish you taught yourself or friends and family to help. There were no guides to speak of especially at local lakes, rivers or streams. I learned mostly from Sports Afield, Field & Stream or Outdoor Life. Frank 1 Quote
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