Green Trout Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 I am going punching soon in some thick grass. I am using a 7-6 flipping sick Heavy. I have some 30lb monofilament. Would this be too heavy to put on my low-profile Abu Garcia Revo reel? I don't like braid or Flurocarbon. Quote
bassinOUT89 Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Like it or not you need braid in that situation. ZERO stretch and you'll be able to cut weeds and pads that you're going to get hung up in. Can't do that with mono. And I believe a 30 pound mono line would be twice the size diameter of line your reel would be rated for. 1 Quote
Super User Raul Posted August 25, 2015 Super User Posted August 25, 2015 Like it or not you need braid in that situation. Uhh .... I don´t think so. Yes, you can use that line for flipping Green Trout, of course it does have some issues, 30 lb nylon coils like a friggin´ slinky. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 25, 2015 Super User Posted August 25, 2015 Sunline Armilo Defier Nylon 25 lb is only .016D, or equal to 14 lb XT, 30 lb XT is is .022D, might want to consider the smaller diameter line. Give 30 lb a try, spray it with line conditioner! Tom 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted August 25, 2015 Super User Posted August 25, 2015 I am going punching soon in some thick grass. I am using a 7-6 flipping sick Heavy. I have some 30lb monofilament. Would this be too heavy to put on my low-profile Abu Garcia Revo reel? I don't like braid or Flurocarbon. Instead of Punching, fishing very heavy or matted vegetation with 30 lb mono might be something closer to a Weak Jab. Just use braid. A-Jay 3 Quote
Bruce424 Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 It's probably doable. As long as your not making long pitches and a pretty stiff rod. Like a broom stick! Haha. 1 Quote
poisonokie Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 I don't think casting reels have line ratings necessarily, and flipping only requires like 25 ft of line, anyway. That thick diameter line will have very high abrasion resistance around rocks that would snap braid like a razor. However, like bassinout said, it won't cut through that thick vegetation like braid and you'll constantly be dealing with a bunch of salad getting in the way. Also, the mono will stretch, interfering with hook sets, and won't give you near the feel of braid. Braid is more manageable cast after cast if you start pitching. And if you need higher abrasion resistance or lower visibility, you can always tie on a short mono/fluoro leader that will give you those traits without causing line management or stretch issues. 65 lb braid has the diameter of 17 lb mono, so of you do want to be more versatile with that combo and cast a C Rig, braid will give you the option. Quote
ABW Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 Why don't you like braid? 50 or 65 lb will treat you better than 30 lb mono. Quote
poisonokie Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 Not to mention the fact that whatever setup you're using for this is probably pretty good for frogs and with frogging there's enough working against you without the wrong line adding to it. Quote
Super User Catt Posted August 26, 2015 Super User Posted August 26, 2015 Guys come on! We were punching matted Hydrilla in the 70s with 25# mono! Is it a good choice given todays lines? No! Can it be do with 30# mono? Absolutely! Oh yea even with braid ya still gonna be pulling up a bass wrapped in grass! 3 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted August 26, 2015 Super User Posted August 26, 2015 Remember when 5:1 was high speed? Lol. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted August 26, 2015 Super User Posted August 26, 2015 Remember when 5:1 was high speed? Lol. No ~ You're Old. A-Jay 1 Quote
ned_riggins Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 There is 0 reasons not to use braid for this. Why dont you like braid? its gonna be 1000 times easier to deal with than 30 lb mono. 1 Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted August 26, 2015 Super User Posted August 26, 2015 Remember when 5:1 was high speed? Lol. Seems like only a few minutes ago to me... And yes I am getting old! Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted August 26, 2015 Super User Posted August 26, 2015 Seems like only a few minutes ago to me... And yes I am getting old! Me too - I'm just in denial . . . anyone seen my pants ? A-Jay Quote
WPCfishing Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 I like Power Pro and Sufix 832 65# in the junk. I'll tie on a 20# CX leader with 40# if I'm in pads over 3' of water or more. Quote
Super User Raul Posted August 26, 2015 Super User Posted August 26, 2015 Guys come on! We were punching matted Hydrilla in the 70s with 25# mono! Is it a good choice given todays lines? No! Can it be do with 30# mono? Absolutely! Oh yea even with braid ya still gonna be pulling up a bass wrapped in grass! Flipping to tule and mesquite trees down here .....just sayin' . Quote
WPCfishing Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 Flipping to tule and mesquite trees down here .....just sayin' . Well said ... lol I love Junk bass... It's my wheel house. Going tomorrow.. I'll be in the junk for hours. Can't wait to get there. Aside from my jigs I found a bait I love using. It's the Gambler Cane Toad.. Give it a go if you get an opportunity. The 49er is a great color. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted August 26, 2015 Global Moderator Posted August 26, 2015 I'm not a big fan of braid on my casting gear either, but I'd use braid no question in that situation. With that said, if you're set on doing it, yes it can be done. Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 26, 2015 Super User Posted August 26, 2015 Using 65-80 lb braid and tying on a 6' mono leader when flipping in 3-5 feet of water means the braid is out of the water and you fishing with mono underwater where the cover is located. If you use braid in heavy cover tie direct without a leader when flipping. Some say you can't tie direct because and you can't break it off..... We used 25-30 lb mono for decades, worked OK. I use 65 lb braid and tie direct in heavy cover today, works better for me than mono or FC. This thread isn't about us, it's a ? The OP asked and heavy mono isn't easy to use on a small diameter spool reel, otherwise it will work because no LMB can break it on it's strength, it's the angler that breaks the heavy line. Tom Quote
NathanW Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 Go for it. I have had pretty good success punching with 20lbs fluoro... Lost a couple good ones in the process as well. You are not always going to be rigged up perfectly and sometimes you just have to put the bait where they are biting and hope to get them out. It works more often than not but will certainly break your heart when you can't quite get them turned toward the boat quick enough. Note that you don't like fishing braid because you aren't any good at it. It will take some practice and there's never a better time to start learning than now. I assume you are on this forum because you want to get better right? Quote
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