SCHWARTZ Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 I've started fishing bayou black. The place has thick weeds everywhere so I started flipin a speed craw with a 3/4oz bullet weight but It doesn't want to punch all the way through and I keep pulling up 10lb of weads with it. Any tips on what to use? Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted August 21, 2015 Super User Posted August 21, 2015 I've started fishing bayou black. The place has thick weeds everywhere so I started flipin a speed craw with a 3/4oz bullet weight but It doesn't want to punch all the way through and I keep pulling up 10lb of weads with it. Any tips on what to use? The obvious answer is more weight, and I would add, what rod are you using for this application? Quote
Super User Senko lover Posted August 21, 2015 Super User Posted August 21, 2015 1 1/2 oz weight should get through anything (punchable, that is ). Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted August 21, 2015 Global Moderator Posted August 21, 2015 Besides a heavier weight (Id start at 1oz and go from there) use a more compact plastic such as a craw type bait of your choice. Mike Quote
Super User RoLo Posted August 21, 2015 Super User Posted August 21, 2015 Although 'weed-probing' can be done with a 3/8 oz sinker, true "mat-punching" normally requires a punch sinker between 3/4 oz & 2 oz. I keep a 1-1/4 oz punch sinker on my mat-punching outfit which is very rarely changed. IMO, too much weight is better than too little weight, as it tends to trigger more strikes out of impulse. Roger 4 Quote
SCHWARTZ Posted August 21, 2015 Author Posted August 21, 2015 The obvious answer is more weight, and I would add, what rod are you using for this application?For my heavier flipin stick I have a Duckett gost 7.3 heavy with an shimano bantam castic and for my lighter flipin stick I have a Duckett micro magic 7.3 med heavy with a shimano bantam castic Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted August 22, 2015 Super User Posted August 22, 2015 For my heavier flipin stick I have a Duckett gost 7.3 heavy with an shimano bantam castic and for my lighter flipin stick I have a Duckett micro magic 7.3 med heavy with a shimano bantam castic In that case, increase weight until you can punch through the canopy. The weight range can be anywhere from 1oz-1.5oz Quote
poisonokie Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 try a 3/4-1 oz Jika rig. That thing will drill through anything as long as you keep your plastics compact 1 Quote
SCHWARTZ Posted August 22, 2015 Author Posted August 22, 2015 try a 3/4-1 oz Jika rig. That thing will drill through anything as long as you keep your plastics compactWill do thanks. I also saw something called a football swing jig. Is it the same or different? Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted August 22, 2015 Super User Posted August 22, 2015 Will do thanks. I also saw something called a football swing jig. Is it the same or different? i would stick with cylinderical weights ( tungsten bullet weight ) 1 - 2.5 oz. Quote
poisonokie Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Will do thanks. I also saw something called a football swing jig. Is it the same or different? They are similar, but not as snagless. They are more for dragging across hard/sandy flats like a football jig, but with a free swinging action. 1 Quote
poisonokie Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 That's about all I know. Heavy jikas and pegged punch rigs are about the best ways to get down there. Now you could stay on top and hop a frog or rat across those mats. Or attempt to rip a trap or chatterbait, or swim a jig or underspin around the perimeter. Quote
chadmack282 Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 Will do both. Anybody else have something I can try? Quote
chadmack282 Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 What some of Scott Martins punchn utube videos! Quote
kikstand454 Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 ^^^ this. Or search mikeyballz. These two offer everything you need to know about punching mats. I'm punching mats tomorrow! My fav thing to do. Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted August 23, 2015 Super User Posted August 23, 2015 ^^^ this. Or search mikeyballz. These two offer everything you need to know about punching mats. I'm punching mats tomorrow! My fav thing to do. I enjoy Mikey's videos. I really enjoy the sound tracks he has them embedded with. Lol... Not only does he show how to punch, he also shows you the tackle he using and why. Quote
starcraft1 Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 I use 3/4 to 1 oz. poison head - 5/0 round bend with a heavy weed gaurd and a "missle" shaped plastic or a skirted jig (on trimming of the skirt) with no trailer. Both methods work great. Keep your plastics slender with nothing sticking out to get caught in the matts/ grass and if your water is on the warm to hot side, a jellyied sent works well to let your bait "slide" thru the heavy/ slimy stuff. I use Smelly Jelly and leave it on the deck in the sun. It will seperate, just move your plastics around in it and you'll bring it back. No sure if your local bait shop carries it, it's made in Or. or Wa. Most of us west coast guys know of it. Try the XXX3 crawdad type. I know Bass tackle depot carries it. Also look into Bass Kandi baits (your local co.) Mike makes the right colors for your and many other areas. He's located in the south/western part of your state. Quote
JGBassinAL Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 Will do both. Anybody else have something I can try? Quote
gobig Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 You can also use a miller weight to get through heavy mats. Quote
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