Super User slonezp Posted August 18, 2015 Super User Posted August 18, 2015 Not too shabby. No info yet but the Lund dealer meetings are going on right now. 2 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted August 19, 2015 Super User Posted August 19, 2015 I'll be Looking HARD at these. A-Jay 2 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted August 19, 2015 Author Super User Posted August 19, 2015 I'll be Looking HARD at these. A-Jay Keep tabs on that link I gave you. Nothing new as of yet but T Mac is at the meetings and he promised pics and info. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted August 19, 2015 Super User Posted August 19, 2015 Keep tabs on that link I gave you. Nothing new as of yet but T Mac is at the meetings and he promised pics and info. Yup ~ I did some looking around today actually . . . .NOTHING. A-Jay Quote
LuckyGia Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Looks like the transom is rivited in. Lund's are big up north here. Typically a quality boat. 1 Quote
Allen Der Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Pro-V bass sounds like an oxymoron to me. they look nice, but I think I like your Lund Predator better 2 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted August 20, 2015 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2015 Pro-V bass sounds like an oxymoron to me. they look nice, but I think I like your Lund Predator better Thanks. The Predator is by far the best boat I've owned and one of the nicest fishing boats I've been in. I think Lund's issue with Predator sales stemmed from 2 issues. Marketing a boat to the musky fisherman with inadequate rod storage and their marketing plan in general. A musky boat that doesn't hold 8ft or larger rods is a bass boat. Depending on motor selection and options, the Predator 2010 started at 35k with a 150 and could be outfitted to over 60k with a 225 Verado and a 9.9 kicker I believe most fishermen spending 50k+ on a bass boat would choose a glass boat. Now, to the marketing plan in general. The Pro V is their flagship boat. They market that boat more than any of their line. When people hear Lund, they think Pro V. The rest of their fleet is just that...the rest of their fleet. Lund's are extremely popular up north with little acknowledgement in the south. Ranger and Tracker on the other hand, are popular brands nationwide. So, now comes the Pro V Bass. The IPS2 hull is the hull design the Pro V shares with the Predator, the Alaskan, and I believe a couple other models. It's more of a cross between a modified v and a deep v. (A true deep v would be the Baron or Tyee) This hull design is not similar to either the Tracker or Ranger aluminum. It's in a completely different class. Now, If I were a betting man, I'd say the vast majority of bass boats, both glass and aluminum are sold in the south. The same south where fisherman think Lund is just an expensive aluminum boat, and lets just face it, aluminum boats are for entry level boaters with limited funds. So, how do they market it? My educated guess thinks the 1875 ProV Bass with a 200 well equipped will be around the 35-37k price point. This is roughly 10k more than the Ranger RT188 and the new Tracker 195TX Again, I stress this boat is in a different class. Not only is the hull different, but the Ranger is rated for a 115 and the Tracker a 150. Brunswick already markets a boat to compete with these boats, the Crestliner VT19. So, how do they convince southerners that this boat is superior tin option than the Ranger. I'm not sure. I think they need to really push the rough water capability. I know the larger southern impoundments get pretty rough. I've been on KY Lake in some nasty stuff in a deep v and wouldn't have attempted it in a mod v. They need to convince the buyer that they are getting more of an aluminum boat for less than a glass. If they can't do this, I believe it will disappear just like the Predator. BTW This not Lund's first go at a Pro V bass boat. 1 Quote
Allen Der Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Thanks. The Predator is by far the best boat I've owned and one of the nicest fishing boats I've been in. I think Lund's issue with Predator sales stemmed from 2 issues. Marketing a boat to the musky fisherman with inadequate rod storage and their marketing plan in general. A musky boat that doesn't hold 8ft or larger rods is a bass boat. Depending on motor selection and options, the Predator 2010 started at 35k with a 150 and could be outfitted to over 60k with a 225 Verado and a 9.9 kicker I believe most fishermen spending 50k+ on a bass boat would choose a glass boat. Now, to the marketing plan in general. The Pro V is their flagship boat. They market that boat more than any of their line. When people hear Lund, they think Pro V. The rest of their fleet is just that...the rest of their fleet. Lund's are extremely popular up north with little acknowledgement in the south. Ranger and Tracker on the other hand, are popular brands nationwide. So, now comes the Pro V Bass. The IPS2 hull is the hull design the Pro V shares with the Predator, the Alaskan, and I believe a couple other models. It's more of a cross between a modified v and a deep v. (A true deep v would be the Baron or Tyee) This hull design is not similar to either the Tracker or Ranger aluminum. It's in a completely different class. Now, If I were a betting man, I'd say the vast majority of bass boats, both glass and aluminum are sold in the south. The same south where fisherman think Lund is just an expensive aluminum boat, and lets just face it, aluminum boats are for entry level boaters with limited funds. So, how do they market it? My educated guess thinks the 1875 ProV Bass with a 200 well equipped will be around the 35-37k price point. This is roughly 10k more than the Ranger RT188 and the new Tracker 195TX Again, I stress this boat is in a different class. Not only is the hull different, but the Ranger is rated for a 115 and the Tracker a 150. Brunswick already markets a boat to compete with these boats, the Crestliner VT19. So, how do they convince southerners that this boat is superior tin option than the Ranger. I'm not sure. I think they need to really push the rough water capability. I know the larger southern impoundments get pretty rough. I've been on KY Lake in some nasty stuff in a deep v and wouldn't have attempted it in a mod v. They need to convince the buyer that they are getting more of an aluminum boat for less than a glass. If they can't do this, I believe it will disappear just like the Predator. BTW This not Lund's first go at a Pro V bass boat. I didnt realize the predator's rod lockers were so short. It's funny because even my Lund Rebel XL 1650 has 8FT rod storage. Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted August 20, 2015 Super User Posted August 20, 2015 Pro-V bass sounds like an oxymoron to me. they look nice, but I think I like your Lund Predator better If the Predator was still available today, I know what I would be pulling the trigger on. 1 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted August 20, 2015 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2015 If the Predator was still available today, I know what I would be pulling the trigger on.And it could have been ordered with a full windshield Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted August 20, 2015 Super User Posted August 20, 2015 If the Predator was still available today, I know what I would be pulling the trigger on. Same here ~ Hope this one comes close. A-Jay Quote
Allen Der Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 If the Predator was still available today, I know what I would be pulling the trigger on. And it could have been ordered with a full windshield Same here ~ Hope this one comes close. A-Jay Same here ~ Hope this one comes close. A-Jay I heard a rumor that you can still get one made by Lund if your dealer will special order it for you 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted August 20, 2015 Super User Posted August 20, 2015 I heard a rumor that you can still get one made by Lund if your dealer will special order it for you Interesting - If you don't mind me asking, How, Where & When did you happen to come by this information ? Please pm me if need be ~ Thanks in advance A-Jay Quote
Allen Der Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Interesting - If you don't mind me asking, How, Where & When did you happen to come by this information ? Please pm me if need be ~ Thanks in advance A-Jay I believe it was on walleye central. call a couple dealers and ask. the factory probably has to wait until they get a few orders before they'll build them 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted August 20, 2015 Super User Posted August 20, 2015 I believe it was on walleye central. call a couple dealers and ask. the factory probably has to wait until they get a few orders before they'll build them Thanks Again. A-Jay Quote
Super User slonezp Posted August 20, 2015 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2015 I didnt realize the predator's rod lockers were so short. It's funny because even my Lund Rebel XL 1650 has 8FT rod storage. 15 rods in the center rod locker. 5 each 6 1/2, 7, 7 1/2 footers. There is rod tubes in the gunwale storage on the port side, but I'm not sure the length. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted August 20, 2015 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2015 I heard a rumor that you can still get one made by Lund if your dealer will special order it for you I heard this back in 2014 and saw an ad for a used 2014 for sale a number of months ago in Canada.(It was listed as a 2013 but it had the 2014 graphics) If they are using the same hull for another model, I don't see why not. If not, I highly doubt they will rework their production line for A Jay. He's a nice guy and all but....... 2 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted August 23, 2015 Author Super User Posted August 23, 2015 another pic 1 Quote
Tim Kelly Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 Home run! As long as the price is reasonable that's got to be a popular boat. Now mercury just need to make the 200hp version of their 150 4 stroke to got on it! Quote
PitchinJigz Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 I drooled when I saw the pop up tackle storage. Quote
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