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  • Super User
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It matters in braod daylight in that they can see the line since they have excellent color vision in some parts of the spectrum

the inexperienced fish wont care

the experienced fish may associate it with danger depending on its experience with it and run

this applies to hooks as well

you wanna take the chance.. go right ahead.. its a free world to believe whatever u want

And ya believe that!

  • Super User
Posted

Every time we land a bass on a crankbait, we reaffirm the fact that bass are 'not' hook-shy.

Then why would this same reckless creature be frightened by the sight of a filament in the water?

Differently said, how can a fish become conditioned to danger if it lacks the ability to identify danger?

If bass can't figure out that it's the hook that bites and not the line, then they're not even on first base.

 

It's probably a good thing when a fish sees your line, then she almost certainly sees your lure  :smiley:

Who knows, maybe it's good to use high-visibility line, so bass can follow the line all the way to your lure    :grin:

 

Roger

  • Super User
Posted

Now that I come to think about it, why are y'all "bass can see my line" dudes so worried ? The solution is simple, get RED line cuz ya know, red line dissapears so bass won't be able to see it. There you go, problem solved !

  • Super User
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I am a believer in using line you have confidence with. My preference is dull green or clear line and don't like using bright colored line. I have a friend who believes the opposite and uses fluorescent line, his thinking is the bass follow the line to his lures! Whatever works is the right line.

Tom

  • Like 1
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There will never be a definitive answer to this question until the fish can talk, and I don't know of any that have up to this point :P

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Can it matter? Sure

Will it always matter? no

How much of each scenario? who knows

 

 

Like Tom said, confidence is key. If you think it matters then change and let your experiences guide you.

  • Super User
Posted

Bass anglers are a gullible crowd if the appeal to their belief "it's the tackle not the angler!"

The fishing industry is built on this ;)

  • Like 1
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I have blue braided line...never had an issue.

Ifthey have no problem biting the hook, why would the line be any different??

 

Dont fall for nonsense...unless youre trout fishing. thats a different ballgame.

  • Super User
Posted

I will probably regret extending the life of this thread, but....

 

Dont fall for nonsense...unless youre trout fishing. thats a different ballgame.

Why?

 

Do trout see line differently than bass?  See it the same, but process and assess the 'threat' differently?  Approach potential food sources differently?  Are they the same, but the waters are simply different?  It probably isn't important in the least to bass fisherman....but then again, if the folks above who are serious about making their line as unobtrusive as possible to bass are correct...well, maybe it would be instructive to know what a trout sees or thinks??

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  • Super User
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I have blue braided line...never had an issue.

Ifthey have no problem biting the hook, why would the line be any different??

 

Dont fall for nonsense...unless youre trout fishing. thats a different ballgame.

 

When we fish for keen-eyed species in crystal-clear water, a thin diameter line is very important,

but the reason is more covert than 'line visibility' (fish aren't interested in eating your line, their eyes are fixed on the lure).

 

For example, brook trout, tuna of all species and smallmouth bass in Dale Hollow, are all quick to reject an offering

that displays just a tad of 'unnatural motion'. The fatter the line diameter the greater the water resistance,

and 'line drag' is the leading cause of unnatural drift (e.g. fly fishing with a wet nymph).

 

Roger

  • Like 1
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I do not buy any of that BS!

Y'all trying to say how bass see things through a human brain!

If a bass can identify line as danger they will know your lure is fake!

Bass might see your line but have no clue what it is!

 

I agree with Catt on this one. I've been using neon green Trilene Big Game for fishing T-rigs for years. I catch enough bass to keep me coming back. I don't believe that a fish brain is sophisticated enough to go through all of the reasoning required to associate seeing a line with the possibility of danger.

 

Tom

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The way I look at it is like this:

 

I don't really think that fish care about the line (if they can see it or not).  BUT, it makes me feel better and that's a big deal for my analytical grape.  When you're as nit-picky as I am it's just one less thing to think about when I'm fishing and one more oppertunity for me to enjoy what I'm doing instead of thinking about what I could be doing better.  Just one more box to check as to why they are (or are not) biting. 

 

Also, when you start getting into abrasion resistance, etc. it's just a no brainer.  There are only two things that plague my mind with leaders (but I get over); the joining of two lines togther and the tap of the knot going through the guides with longer leaders.  As a "less is more" kinda guy I don't like weak points or splicing anything together, but with a good knot it's good to go (I guess haha).

 

You have to take anything that I say on any post with a grain of salt.  Most of the things I obsess over wouldn't bother anyone else.  Attention to detail is an extremely important thing to me.  Mating surfaces with play in them keep me up at night, slop in anything can take up an entire day for me to adjust something so it's the perfect balance of no play with the least resistance.  Haha, where fishing is concerned I have to make a mental note not to write down or witness mark spool tension/brake settings for every bait I tie on.  I got back into fishing to relieve stress, not create more haha!

 

If you aren't stressing out about it and you're catching fish then I wouldn't change a thing. 

 

God Bless

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I believe in they don't associate line visibility with danger but sometimes I feel as of it doesn't give the right presentation such as, what's this long yellow thing on my food, just enough to where the bass might be a little shy, specially on pressured waters.

Posted

 I have a setup with clear mono, and a setup with red mono.  Have caught fish on both, but more on the clear.  In my worthless opinion as I have very limited fishing experience and probably even less knowledge as Im in my second year being back in the sport,  I think the fish do see the line, just like they see the chartreuse senko.  But I dont think what they see makes a bit a difference when the lure has their focus.   

  • Super User
Posted

What's this long yellow thing on my food, just enough to where the bass might be a little shy, specially on pressured waters.

 

Bass that enjoy spaghetti will just slop it down  (who said there's no free lunch?)  :laughing7:

Posted

The trophy bass will stop and ponder the situation and then decide to hang around for a few. When a younger and dumber fish comes along and gets itself hooked, the trophy fish just swims away knowing you will never know!

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