FinCulture Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 You definitely want a rod with fast action for working the frog so that the tip isn't swinging all over the place, I learned this first hand from trying to work a hollow body with an ugly stik in my earlier days of bass fishing. You also probably want to go with a medium heavy to heavy power, as you're gonna want some backbone when you're trying to set those thick frog hooks. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Imo frog rods are technique specific to a large extent. You want the power of course due to the cover but you want a tip that will load for casting. Rainshadow, MHX and others offer blanks that fit the bill. In the past I've used in-shore Rod blanks to get the action / power mix I wanted. 1 Quote
BassResource.com Advertiser FD. Posted August 11, 2015 BassResource.com Advertiser Posted August 11, 2015 Any 843 blank will work. That's normally a 7 ft MH Fast tip. It is a good multipurpose rod. My personal hollow body frog rod is built on a Rainshadow Rx8 XMB843. 1 Quote
Batson Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Reposted! Remember it also depends on where your living. Well I can't speak for my competitors but most the pros we have and others that need a custom! http://www.rainshadowrodblanks.com/product-line/revelation-bass-casting/ Alabama/Guntersville, Tenesse river chain love this blank: REVC710H Est MSRP: $127.05 and the REVC710MH: Est MSRP: $112.40 Florida/Okeechobee/area love this: REVC711XXH: $169.88 Others love this: http://www.rainshadowrodblanks.com/product-line/rx7-bass-flippinstick/ IFS906 Est price: $119.63 MSRP But you might like this: http://www.rainshadowrodblanks.com/product-line/immortal-bass-casting/ IMMC73HXF Est price: $188.10 MSRP Good and bad problem to have! Just depends on your area and what you want to accomplish, how you fish, and budget!! But these are full blown MSRP!! You can get all the best parts and still be under. Quote
BDfishing Posted August 11, 2015 Author Posted August 11, 2015 Any 843 blank will work. That's normally a 7 ft MH Fast tip. It is a good multipurpose rod. My personal hollow body frog rod is built on a Rainshadow Rx8 XMB843. Do u have a link for buying that rod 1 Quote
BDfishing Posted August 11, 2015 Author Posted August 11, 2015 What blank would be close to the Dobyns 735, I see a lot of people like that Rod for frogs Quote
Batson Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 sorry I don't have a Dobyns built rod in house to test. Do you know how it deflects via CCS system? If so, we can give you a really close estimate. Quote
BDfishing Posted August 11, 2015 Author Posted August 11, 2015 I'm just starting out, so that's over my head Quote
BDfishing Posted August 11, 2015 Author Posted August 11, 2015 There is a chart here down a little bit http://www.tackletour.com/reviewdobyns735c.html Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted August 11, 2015 Super User Posted August 11, 2015 I am impressed with my MHX MB874 7'3" H/F blank, so when the time comes I am going to have a frog rod built on the MHX MB844 7' H/F blank. I have always liked a 7' rod for frogging. I used the 7'3 the other day and it was fine, but I want something just a hair shorter for tight spot, like skipping under docks/over hanging trees, etc... In the spring and fall when the weed cover is lighter, I like to use a MH powered rod. 1 Quote
BassResource.com Advertiser FD. Posted August 11, 2015 BassResource.com Advertiser Posted August 11, 2015 What blank would be close to the Dobyns 735, I have never fished a Dobyns but here is what I see. The D is 3 inches longer and has an extra fast action. I only build topwater or jerk bait rods with an extra fast action. I think that puts too much stress on the tip during the hook sets on a frog rod. And without comparing the blanks side by side, I would say, just based on the list price on the Dobyins with Kigan Sic guides, the Rainshadow blank would be far superior to the blank Dobyns started with. 2 Quote
BDfishing Posted August 12, 2015 Author Posted August 12, 2015 I have never fished a Dobyns but here is what I see. The D is 3 inches longer and has an extra fast action. I only build topwater or jerk bait rods with an extra fast action. I think that puts too much stress on the tip during the hook sets on a frog rod. And without comparing the blanks side by side, I would say, just based on the list price on the Dobyins with Kigan Sic guides, the Rainshadow blank would be far superior to the blank Dobyns started with. What Rainshadow blank Quote
BassResource.com Advertiser FD. Posted August 13, 2015 BassResource.com Advertiser Posted August 13, 2015 What Rainshadow blank Rainshadow Rx8 XMB843 2 Quote
Batson Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 If you can't find this blank, the new blank that has replaced it is called the: RainShadow Immortal 1 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted August 21, 2015 Super User Posted August 21, 2015 Rainshadow Rx8 XMB843 Man, that sounds awfully light for a frog rod. It would probably be ok for open water but not really what I would consider a frogging blank. Quote
Batson Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Well everyone flips and pitches differently. They also use different rod blanks in different environments. Keep this in mind always. Down in Texas, this is the models that people like for what your looking for: Revelation series REVC76MH and REVC76H http://www.rainshadowrodblanks.com/product-line/revelation-bass-casting/ RX7 Series: IFS904 and the IFS906 http://www.rainshadowrodblanks.com/product-line/rx7-bass-flippinstick/ Quote
Super User RoLo Posted August 25, 2015 Super User Posted August 25, 2015 7 ft A shorter rod will generate more power, but a 7-ft rod moves the bass more quickly out of cover (Haul Stroke) Heavy Medium-heavy power is adequate for frogging, but the weight of the weeds added to the weight of the bass is when a heavy power blank is appreciated. Fast With a med-hvy blank I'd go with an extra-fast taper for better hook-setting. But with a 'heavy' rod, a 'fast' action tip offers more fighting tension, whereas an extra-fast taper isn't as effective at preventing an instant of slack line. As for blank brand, that's your baby ;-) Roger Quote
BassResource.com Advertiser FD. Posted August 26, 2015 BassResource.com Advertiser Posted August 26, 2015 Man, that sounds awfully light for a frog rod. It would probably be ok for open water but not really what I would consider a frogging blank. Heavy is not always better, particularly after throwing it all day. Plus I don't horse them out of the thick stuff. I have a 36 volt tm so I hold pressure and go get them. The rapid decline in my physical abilities after passing the 45 yr mark has forced me to rethink the way I fish. Quote
Al Wolbach Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 Heavy is not always better, particularly after throwing it all day. Plus I don't horse them out of the thick stuff. I have a 36 volt tm so I hold pressure and go get them. The rapid decline in my physical abilities after passing the 45 yr mark has forced me to rethink the way I fish. Wait until you turn 65, crappie fishing becomes an exciting day on the water... Quote
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