Connor M Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 How can I fix my reel so that it does not backlash while the spool is still giving out line during a cast? I am new to baitcasting reels as of this year and have owned my Shimano Curado 201I for a couple months now. When I attempt a cast every once in a while my bait will stop mid air due to overrunning from the spool. This has recently been happening more often than before. I have tried both tightening and loosening the brakes. Although when tightened I feel like I cannot cast very far, and when too loose this problem seems to occur more often. Inside the cast system I have two of the switches on and two of them off. The dial knob is set at one which may be part of the problem. Also I have it spooled up with 50lb power pro braid(no backing but it is tied through the holes in the spool), and my rod is a 6'6" medium heavy St.Croix mojo bass. Thanks for any help. Quote
S. Sass Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 You sound like I did here was my post and all the responses. Maybe some of it will help it seems very similar. http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/160177-line-issues/#entry1809116 1 Quote
John G Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 Put on three brakes and turn your dial to 6 and tighten your cast control knob so that your lure barely falls. Also, are you throwing to lite of a lure? If so, throw a heavier lure. What you are experiencing is called growing pains and some, like me, still have the occasional overrun and then I make adjustments but you should know that braid is notorious, for me at least, of over running and stopping in mid cast. BTW, after a couple of months, if you haven't ready done so, you might want to clean your spool bearings. 2 Quote
Fisher-O-men Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 Until you get this under control do not throw any really expensive baits!!!! 3 Quote
edfitzvb Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 It does indeed sound like experience and increased braking will fix your problem. DEFINITELY increase the setting from one to AT LEAST 5 on the side of the reel and watch that suggested video. Good luck. 1 Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted August 7, 2015 Super User Posted August 7, 2015 On your ported spools, I've always thought that putting line through the holes in the spool is a bad idea. Don't know why, exactly, just struck me as a bad idea. I'd tie a better knot to the spool, maybe a dot of super glue to keep the line positioned. Other than that, it just seems like a matter of practice to me. Often, braid is pretty easy to dig into itself and cause over runs/back lashes, etc. The cure to that is to be sure that a constant tension is put on the line as you retrieve. Often, that is easier said than done. 1 Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted August 7, 2015 Super User Posted August 7, 2015 On your ported spools, I've always thought that putting line through the holes in the spool is a bad idea. Don't know why, exactly, just struck me as a bad idea. I'd tie a better knot to the spool, maybe a dot of super glue to keep the line positioned. Other than that, it just seems like a matter of practice to me. Often, braid is pretty easy to dig into itself and cause over runs/back lashes, etc. The cure to that is to be sure that a constant tension is put on the line as you retrieve. Often, that is easier said than done. Spooling up with a few feet of cheaper mono as backing will secure that braid does not spin on the spool. Eliminates placing super glue on the spool. Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted August 7, 2015 Super User Posted August 7, 2015 How can I fix my reel so that it does not backlash while the spool is still giving out line during a cast? I am new to baitcasting reels as of this year and have owned my Shimano Curado 201I for a couple months now. When I attempt a cast every once in a while my bait will stop mid air due to overrunning from the spool. This has recently been happening more often than before. I have tried both tightening and loosening the brakes. Although when tightened I feel like I cannot cast very far, and when too loose this problem seems to occur more often. Inside the cast system I have two of the switches on and two of them off. The dial knob is set at one which may be part of the problem. Also I have it spooled up with 50lb power pro braid(no backing but it is tied through the holes in the spool), and my rod is a 6'6" medium heavy St.Croix mojo bass. Thanks for any help. To the OP, like several members have mentioned already. What lure are you primarily using? I have Curado I and I use it for my frogging applications. 0 backlash, with 2 brakes set and 0 on the knob. The weight of the frog and proper adjustment to the reel minimizes backlashes. If you are using lighter baits, especially with 50lb braid, several adjustments may have to be taken into consideration. Lastly, digging. If your 50lb braid is digging, you spooled it very loose onto your reel. Tying braid directly to your spool will cause the line to spin on your spool. You need to use a bit of backing to secure that braid. Keep at it. You are experiencing a learning curve. Best of luck. 1 Quote
Connor M Posted August 7, 2015 Author Posted August 7, 2015 To the OP, like several members have mentioned already. What lure are you primarily using? I have Curado I and I use it for my frogging applications. 0 backlash, with 2 brakes set and 0 on the knob. The weight of the frog and proper adjustment to the reel minimizes backlashes. If you are using lighter baits, especially with 50lb braid, several adjustments may have to be taken into consideration. Lastly, digging. If your 50lb braid is digging, you spooled it very loose onto your reel. Tying braid directly to your spool will cause the line to spin on your spool. You need to use a bit of backing to secure that braid. Keep at it. You are experiencing a learning curve. Best of luck. I am also using a frog on this set up which I am usually able to cast pretty far. After further research I think that I am expericing digging. As you said spooling the line on tighter will help, does this mean after every cat I will have to use my fingers to create more tension during the retrieve? Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted August 7, 2015 Super User Posted August 7, 2015 What pound braid are you using? How about the rods action.. If you are new to baitcasting, I would suggest spooling up & using mono to learn casting this reel.. 2 brakes on and dial @ 3 or 4 should control any bait on a outcast. Yes, I use the curado I , however I've been casting baitcasters for 4 decades.( I'm not a braid lover ) although I use it occasionally.. Practice casting at the ball field, your yard & you will get the mechanics of your rig. Good luck.. Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted August 7, 2015 Super User Posted August 7, 2015 I am also using a frog on this set up which I am usually able to cast pretty far. After further research I think that I am expericing digging. As you said spooling the line on tighter will help, does this mean after every cat I will have to use my fingers to create more tension during the retrieve? Not necessarily. In my case for example, I like to cast the frog very far. If I miss a fish or it comes off early in the hookset i find if the resistance isn't right the line will spool back on loosely. Again... only in certain situations, this isn't always the case. 1 Quote
OnthePotomac Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Back off on the muscle when throwing a bait with this reel. I have three and they tend to be pretty fast just requiring a flick of the wrist to launch the bait. My 20 year old grandson went through the same problem the first time I let him fish a Senko on one of my reels. His casts sounded like a tornado with a backlash on every throw. Once I got him to slow down the effort with wrist action and not baseball bat action, the backlashes stopped. It is even worse with the Chronarch C14's. They are really fast. 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 It sounds like you're describing over-run, the spool is feeding line faster than the bait is pulling it out. A smoother casting stroke and some thumb should help, but double check your setup as well. While getting the hang of it, it helps to pull off a long cast worth of line plus some (120' or so) and put a strip of electrical tape arond the spool there. This will keep any backlash from getting too deep. 1 Quote
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