BocaGrande Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 So I Just got a new spinning rod and paired it with my Shimano Sahara FE 2500, seemed great in the store. The rod is a 6'6ft medium fast, 14lb max line with standard sized fugi guides. (The rod feels like a medium heavy to me) I've had some trilene 14lb solar line laying around and decided to try it out.. I spooled it up and went to test it in my yard, but when I reel in I hear a slapping sound every couple of turns (not consistent) any ideas?? Quote
NJSalt Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 where is the sound coming from? The title mentions a rod, but from the post it sounds like it may be coming from the reel? Quote
BocaGrande Posted August 5, 2015 Author Posted August 5, 2015 where is the sound coming from? The title mentions a rod, but from the post it sounds like it may be coming from the reel? I cant pinpoint the exact location of the spund, but it seems to be happening between the first guide and the reel.. which is most likely liNE hitting the rod somewhere, right? Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 There's a couple things at play here I think. 14# mono is stiff for a spinning reel imo. 10 is as high as I'd use on a 2500 size reel and preferably 8<. Second is that the guide train is critical on a spining rod. A stripper that is too close to the reel, too small or too low will all cause the line to back up and slap on the cast and possible retrieve especially if there is not tension on the line. I'd try a lighter line or better yet 15# braid with a leader. 4 Quote
BocaGrande Posted August 5, 2015 Author Posted August 5, 2015 I just spooled the 2500 reel with 12# fluorocarbon, and put that on my 7ft st croix. Still a lot of line slap. And this rod is rated 7ft medium, 6-12lb, 1/4-5/8oz. Casting a 3/8oz plug to test it... line slapping like crazy Quote
BocaGrande Posted August 5, 2015 Author Posted August 5, 2015 There's a couple things at play here I think. 14# mono is stiff for a spinning reel imo. 10 is as high as I'd use on a 2500 size reel and preferably 8<. Second is that the guide train is critical on a spining rod. A stripper that is too close to the reel, too small or too low will all cause the line to back up and slap on the cast and possible retrieve especially if there is not tension on the line. I'd try a lighter line or better yet 15# braid with a leader.I have 12# braid I've been wanting to try on a spinning outfit. Do you think this would solve the problem? If not, would the reel be the issue? Because this 2500 reel I have works great with my 6'6ft lite rod with micro guides, perfect together.**edit** sorry for the typos, using my phone. Grammar corrected!** Quote
BocaGrande Posted August 6, 2015 Author Posted August 6, 2015 will overfilling the spool cause line slap? Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted August 6, 2015 Super User Posted August 6, 2015 did you spool up the line right ? if spooled wrong , you will have coils through out the line . try the braid , which has no memory (once the waxy coating has wore away ) see if that solves it . the coils will possibly cause line slap . like Mike said , 14 lb. line is awfully big for that size reel , most use 8 lb. max , if you do need stronger line , braid is your best choice used along with a leader of mono or flourocarbon . i would recommend 10-15 lb . that stuff if plenty strong , needing stronger line , you might consider a baitcasting set up Quote
BocaGrande Posted August 6, 2015 Author Posted August 6, 2015 did you spool up the line right ? if spooled wrong , you will have coils through out the line . try the braid , which has no memory (once the waxy coating has wore away ) see if that solves it . the coils will possibly cause line slap . like Mike said , 14 lb. line is awfully big for that size reel , most use 8 lb. max , if you do need stronger line , braid is your best choice used along with a leader of mono or flourocarbon . i would recommend 10-15 lb . that stuff if plenty strong , needing stronger line , you might consider a baitcasting set up I'm well equipped with my baitcasters, haven't touched my spinning outfits in a while. So I bough a new rod and spooled up that 14lb line. That's when the problems occurred. I switched the line to 12lb fluorocarbon, and switched the rods... still line slap. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted August 6, 2015 Super User Posted August 6, 2015 I'm well equipped with my baitcasters, haven't touched my spinning outfits in a while. So I bough a new rod and spooled up that 14lb line. That's when the problems occurred. I switched the line to 12lb fluorocarbon, and switched the rods... still line slap. you got me then , i'm stumped Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted August 6, 2015 Super User Posted August 6, 2015 First thing I would do is test it on the water where you will get a retrieve with constant tension. The line should go thru smooth when kept perfectly straight. In any event IMO 14 or even 12 is too thick for 2500 spinning reel, it is possible the line is not spooled properly, try trolling out then test it. 1 Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted August 6, 2015 Super User Posted August 6, 2015 Anything over 10# is too heavy or stiff to use on a 2500 reel. If you want to eliminate that, bump up to a 4000......or switch to braid. 2 Quote
BocaGrande Posted August 6, 2015 Author Posted August 6, 2015 Perhaps it is the line itself. The 12# is quite a this diameter though. I will try a lighter #test Quote
lo n slo Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 If you must use fluoro, go light. But my favorite is 12 lb Trilene XL mono for my spinning reel. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted August 7, 2015 Super User Posted August 7, 2015 check out the post about 15 lb. braid , that's what you need to be doing !!! quit messing with thick mono on that new reel set up you just got , give yourself a break !!! Quote
BocaGrande Posted August 7, 2015 Author Posted August 7, 2015 For my final attempt I spooled up 8lb copolymer and still have line slap. So looks like the 2600 reel goes back on my 6'6ft lite, and I'll be looking for a 3000 series reel for this rod! Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted August 7, 2015 Super User Posted August 7, 2015 are your guides possibly bent ?? Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted August 8, 2015 Super User Posted August 8, 2015 A 3000 won't solve that. All a 3000 is is a 2500 with a deeper spool. Sounds like something else is going on here. Quote
BocaGrande Posted August 8, 2015 Author Posted August 8, 2015 A 3000 won't solve that. All a 3000 is is a 2500 with a deeper spool. Sounds like something else is going on here. Oh man :/ another thing to add is that with the 2500 reel on this rod, the line does not touch the back half of the stripper guide.. meaning when reeling in, the line will turn and only contact the guide at the furthest part FROM the blank.. Quote
BocaGrande Posted August 8, 2015 Author Posted August 8, 2015 are your guides possibly bent ?? I checked them out before I bought the rod, and again after the slapping occurred. They seem pretty straight to me Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted August 8, 2015 Super User Posted August 8, 2015 Rather than racking your brains and coming up with no solution, you may consider starting from scratch with a new rod and reel. This line slapping problem is something I never recalled reading about. Quote
BocaGrande Posted August 8, 2015 Author Posted August 8, 2015 Can you make a video of it with your phone? I can try! Might take me a bit though Quote
BocaGrande Posted August 8, 2015 Author Posted August 8, 2015 This just in! I put my president 6920 (tiny lil guy) on my 7ft rod and absolutely zero line slap... maybe I should try out a 1000 series reel for this rod?? Same line as what I tried on my 2500, 6lb co poly Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted August 8, 2015 Super User Posted August 8, 2015 I can't imagine a 6'6 medium that's not set up properly for an appropriately sized bass reel. Sounds like a poorly designed guide train to me. Care to divulge the brand/model? Quote
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