T And H Marine G Force Prop Nut?

[Wolfie]

Cant find many reviews on these wondering if there worth it?

[Way2slow]

Never even heard of it until your post so I went to their site to check it out. It's not for me.

Their claim It will reduce prop noise, can't say for that one, but they must think people are dumber than dirt to believe this statement.

"The side benefit to the conical shape with cooling ports is it pulls heat away from the motor and actually should lengthen the life of the trolling motor as a result. Both the trolling motor and the batteries become more efficient, and it gives the batteries extra life too."

The flipping thing is on a plastic prop that actually has water circulating between it and the motor. How the heck is it going pull heat away from the motor to help eliminate motor heat. That right there is enough total sales BS to make me not want to buy it, plus that sucker is too expensive.

Well, I gave you my personal opinion, but will never be able to give a review.

[slonezp]

There's a guy on another forum who bought one. He claims the motor is quieter. Me...I don't buy it

[Wayne P.]

I have an Eliminator on my Motor Guide. It does make the motor run quieter.

 

It is a heat sink for the prop shaft.

[Way2slow]

Maybe a couple of watts, if your lucky. If you feel it makes enough difference in the prop noise level and spooks fewer fish, OK, but no one will ever sell me on that claim I referenced.

[Long Mike]

P.T.  Barnum once said "There's a sucker born every day."  Fishermen are suckers for anything they think will help them catch more fish.

[Bluebasser86]

I have one on my Maxxum and it is without a doubt quieter. I don't know about the heat thing but it makes it easier to get my prop off now that I can just grab it with my hand instead of hunting down pliers to do it. 

[Wolfie]

Sweet thanks guys

[Al Wolbach]

Here is my take on these things. We need a heat sink on a shaft that is kept in the water while generating the heat....OK. We need to keep our trolling motors quiet while banging away our sonor units like a rock musician....Ok. And they are only $50, really

[Wolfie]

Here is my take on these things. We need a heat sink on a shaft that is kept in the water while generating the heat....OK. We need to keep our trolling motors quiet while banging away our sonor units like a rock musician....Ok. And they are only $50, really

My reason for wanting it is shallow water flipping to be quiet and i dont think sonar puts out that much noise where as i can hear my trolling motor above surface

[Al Wolbach]

My reason for wanting it is shallow water flipping to be quiet and i dont think sonar puts out that much noise where as i can hear my trolling motor above surface

In reality fish can hear your sonar for miles. Just imagine what that sounds like up close, to a fish. Sound travels great distances in water, Ask anyone that has served on submarines. I recommend that when you are flipping you turn off your sonar entirely and keep trolling motor power as low as possible. I have read however, that intermittent sounds bother fish more than constant sound, which makes sense. I would still be concerned about sonar, especially in shallow water where fish are a little spooked anyway. Do you really need sonar to flip? I assure you every time your sonar transmits it sounds like a base drum to a fish.....

[Wolfie]

In reality fish can hear your sonar for miles. Just imagine what that sounds like up close, to a fish. Sound travels great distances in water, Ask anyone that has served on submarines. I recommend that when you are flipping you turn off your sonar entirely and keep trolling motor power as low as possible. I have read however, that intermittent sounds bother fish more than constant sound, which makes sense. I would still be concerned about sonar, especially in shallow water where fish are a little spooked anyway. Do you really need sonar to flip? I assure you every time your sonar transmits it sounds like a base drum to a fish.....

My reasoning for not wanting to turn my graph off is then I have to turn it back on for when i run on the lake and reselect my lake on the lakemaster chips to load up the map

[slonezp]

In reality fish can hear your sonar for miles. Just imagine what that sounds like up close, to a fish. Sound travels great distances in water, Ask anyone that has served on submarines. I recommend that when you are flipping you turn off your sonar entirely and keep trolling motor power as low as possible. I have read however, that intermittent sounds bother fish more than constant sound, which makes sense. I would still be concerned about sonar, especially in shallow water where fish are a little spooked anyway. Do you really need sonar to flip? I assure you every time your sonar transmits it sounds like a base drum to a fish.....

If your claims are in fact correct, then fish are also hearing all sorts of sounds from all over the place. How do their pea sized brains decipher and/or filter the difference between sounds? If a fish was hooked every time it hears the ping of the transducer, it would never bite. I don't believe it matters one way or another.

[Al Wolbach]

My reasoning for not wanting to turn my graph off is then I have to turn it back on for when i run on the lake and reselect my lake on the lakemaster chips to load up the map

I don't blame you that is a PIA every move. I have no reason to talk you into turning off your sonar, no motive here. Do what is most best for you

[Al Wolbach]

If your claims are in fact correct, then fish are also hearing all sorts of sounds from all over the place. How do their pea sized brains decipher and/or filter the difference between sounds? If a fish was hooked every time it hears the ping of the transducer, it would never bite. I don't believe it matters one way or another.

I am not an expert in fish behavior, you may be right. How far sound travels in water is fact, fish behavior to that sound is unknown to me, however if the sound isn't present it will not bother them.

We all accept that loud noise such as dropping a rod/reel on the deck can spook fish in shallow water. Why does injecting sound energy through a transducer into the water not bother the same fish. Maybe it is because we don't hear it, or we have trained them to accept the pings as normal? Maybe....But when I flip shallow water my sonar is off and what you is fine with me. I feel the fish can tell the difference in a boat pinging a mile away vs a boat pinging 10ft away......

[no39]

I'm not an expert either, but I am a huge dork.  I occasionally read up on bass anatomy and physiology.  From what I understand bass can only hear a very narrow range of frequencies.  Testing showed largemouth are able to detect sounds in the 20 Hz to 600 Hz, while being most sensitive to lower frequency sounds.  I can't speak for all transducers but my 899 operates using 83, 200, and 455 kHz. Which is well out of the hearing range of largemouth bass.  There's also the fact that they need to hear the sound over the ambient noise in the water. With boat traffic, swimmers, waves, rain, and wildlife I suspect the underwater soundscape is one of constant ruckus at any given moment.  

 

TL:DR:

 

I don't think largemouth can hear transducers.  

[Way2slow]

Since I haven't followed the tournament trail for a long time and I know there's always those that do and don't think the sonar affects bass. Years ago, it was very common to turn off the sonar while sitting over the top of a school and fishing straight down on them. I know I've tried it several times, sometimes there is a difference, other times not. I've had several times were I would catch several fish and the bite stop, but still see the fish. Turn off the sonar and the bite starts again. Now, if it was the turning off the sonar or just a coinsidence, don't know.

As for TM noise, I think there's more hype than reality to just how much it affects bass. I know many times when fishing ponds where the bass rarely, if ever hear a TM, I've gotten if shallow water with the TM, turn it off and use the paddle and immediately start seeing wakes on the surface where a fish is getting out of there in a hurry. The TM seems to rarely bother them, but start using a paddle and and you are constantly seeing them getting out of Dodge as far as 25-30 feet away.