Is Coke Really Worth It?

[Nice_Bass]

It has ZERO to do with "coke" and everything to do with the quantity of carbs consumed in relation to activity level. To say a heroine OD is better than the issues you listed is plain stupid, and insulting. To insinuate that my T1D is from drinking "coke" is insulting. To assume that quality of life is linked to having diabetes or not is insulting. You might want to know your audience before sticking your foot in your mouth.

I don't think he was relating it to t1d, but assumed t2d which is obviously much more common, and also linked to lifestyle and diet. 

 

I will say.  I do agree, the article is the dumbest thing I did not read as well today.

 

Also, pop is nasty stuff, don't think I have liked it since I was like 10.

[deaknh03]

It has ZERO to do with "coke" and everything to do with the quantity of carbs consumed in relation to activity level. To say a heroine OD is better than the issues you listed is plain stupid, and insulting. To insinuate that my T1D is from drinking "coke" is insulting. To assume that quality of life is linked to having diabetes or not is insulting. You might want to know your audience before sticking your foot in your mouth.

I never said which was better, they both suck, and I never said type 1 diabetes has any relation to soda..I should have specified type 2, my apologies. I never insinuated a thing, I am saying flat out, if you wish to drink soda daily, and indulge in other processed and artificial foods, it is very reasonable to expect a poor quality of life as you get older.

[deaknh03]

It has ZERO to do with "coke" and everything to do with the quantity of carbs consumed in relation to activity level. To say a heroine OD is better than the issues you listed is plain stupid, and insulting. To insinuate that my T1D is from drinking "coke" is insulting. To assume that quality of life is linked to having diabetes or not is insulting. You might want to know your audience before sticking your foot in your mouth.

and i apologize if you might have been insulted, that was never the intention.

[Fun4Me]

I think his point was, if your going to start listing things that contribute to ones quality of life being diminished, the site's probably going to have to invest in some more server space to accompany such a list.   

[Big C]

COFFEE.  Strong, dark roasted, hot coffee. The true 'black gold" and "Texas tea".

[Bankbeater]

I don't drink very much soda since I got older, but if I do have one, its a Mt. Dew.

[Big C]

It has ZERO to do with "coke" and everything to do with the quantity of carbs consumed in relation to activity level. To say a heroine OD is better than the issues you listed is plain stupid, and insulting. To insinuate that my T1D is from drinking "coke" is insulting. To assume that quality of life is linked to having diabetes or not is insulting. You might want to know your audience before sticking your foot in your mouth.

 

 

I never said which was better, they both suck, and I never said type 1 diabetes has any relation to soda..I should have specified type 2, my apologies. I never insinuated a thing, I am saying flat out, if you wish to drink soda daily, and indulge in other processed and artificial foods, it is very reasonable to expect a poor quality of life as you get older.

 

 

and i apologize if you might have been insulted, that was never the intention.

 

 

Guys, no need to argue.  Just drink some coffee.  Strong dark coffee. 

[SirSnookalot]

There is no blanket rule that covers type 1 or type 2, both predisposition and diet can contribute singularly and jointly, everyone's body is different.  Some people manage their diabetes without much difficulty, while others have to be monitored and change treatment to cope with the advancement of the disease.  Diabetes is never cured, so I've been led to believe.  Diabetes can affect immune system, eyesight, nervous system and host of other diseases.

 

A serious condition that can result from too much sugar and foods that metabolize into sugar is tooth decay.  Tooth decay can lead to infections which can affect other body parts as well heart disease and heart attacks.

 

If one does escape many of the health problems that arise from a poor diet, they've been lucky.  If and when, and most likely will be when sickness occurs those cavalier attitudes going to change mighty quick.

[Oregon Native]

There is no blanket rule that covers type 1 or type 2, both predisposition and diet can contribute singularly and jointly, everyone's body is different.  Some people manage their diabetes without much difficulty, while others have to be monitored and change treatment to cope with the advancement of the disease.  Diabetes is never cured, so I've been led to believe.  Diabetes can affect immune system, eyesight, nervous system and host of other diseases.

 

A serious condition that can result from too much sugar and foods that metabolize into sugar is tooth decay.  Tooth decay can lead to infections which can affect other body parts as well heart disease and heart attacks.

 

If one does escape many of the health problems that arise from a poor diet, they've been lucky.  If and when, and most likely will be when sickness occurs those cavalier attitudes going to change mighty quick.

Doctor gave me three months to get my numbers down for diabetes.  So have been poking myself to check blood several times a day to learn more about my body.  It has been a wow factor to say the least.  Numbers are good now during the day but in morning after a fast they are higher due to the fact I  believe that I munch so much in the evenings.   Anyway...all of us are different to say the least...for me...I'm going wheat free and trying to eliminate most processed sugar.  At 65 I do not want to start meds or needles if I don't have too.

[J Francho]

Every single gram of carbohydrate I ingest must be accounted for and mitigated either by exercise or insulin. It doesn't matter whether it's from grain, processed sugar, or fresh fruit. in done ways, the T2D people have it harder. I don't limit anything in my diet other than through typical moderation like anyone else. If eat more carbs, I use more I Dublin. There are no threats from my doctor, only help in learning new treatment methods, like my insulin pump and BG sensor.

BTW, black coffee contains caffeine, which being a stimulant actually raises your BG, so don't assume it's guilt free.

It's also important to understand that my T1D was NOT a result of any cavalier attitude about diet. It's not a punishment for eating the wrong things. That thinking sends a terrible message.

[Oregon Native]

Every single gram of carbohydrate I ingest must be accounted for and mitigated either by exercise or insulin. It doesn't matter whether it's from grain, processed sugar, or fresh fruit. in done ways, the T2D people have it harder. I don't limit anything in my diet other than through typical moderation like anyone else. If eat more carbs, I use more I Dublin. There are no threats from my doctor, only help in learning new treatment methods, like my insulin pump and BG sensor.

BTW, black coffee contains caffeine, which being a stimulant actually raises your BG, so don't assume it's guilt free.

It's also important to understand that my T1D was NOT a result of any cavalier attitude about diet. It's not a punishment for eating the wrong things. That thinking sends a terrible message.

Hope things go good for ya.  I've got a lot...a lot to learn.  Exercise does help too that's for sure.  My problem started when I was diagnosed with acute pancreatitis.  They blamed it on my diet.  Since I was fortunate to make it through it after many months of #@!$ and then they took my gall bladder among other surgeries they said it was just a matter of time.  Can't begin to tell you all the things this body has gone through with that ride.  But everyday is a gift and I'm so glad I have fishing .... Tight Lines to you and good luck.

[J Francho]

Hmmm, my pancreatitis was from a strep infection gone haywire, not diet. Nasty, nasty stuff. Same to you. If you can do it through diet, more power to you. No way I could do it, lol.

[Cgrinder]

This thread is a good reminder not to mix health advice and the internet.

[J Francho]

Or pretty much if it's shared through FB as "news" it probably isn't.

[*Hootie]

COFFEE. Strong, dark roasted, hot coffee. The true 'black gold" and "Texas tea".

Now yer' talkin!

Hootie

[K_Mac]

Good information John. My experience has been quite different. Because of my weight and bad diet I had become "insulin resistant". My A1c was over 10 before I figured out what was going on. It took a while even through medication and diet to get things under control. Now through diet and exercise I no longer need any medication to control my blood sugar levels.

My experience is not unique. There are huge numbers of people who are eating themselves into trouble. Comparing sugar to heroin is over the top, but there are some similarities in that their use stimulates the desire for more. Yes heroin is evil and sugar used carefully is not. Careful use is not very popular though.

[tomustang]

Already 5 pages, all because one guy hated coke so much he wrote an article slandering it?

[Catch and Grease]

Its funny how people bash soda because of the negative health effects but most people have at least a few unhealthy habits, its hard not to. A lot of fishermen bake themselves in the burning hot sun without adequate protection for example (I'm one of them).

[J Francho]

My A1C was over 14 when I was diagnosed. I couldn't feel my legs, had dropped below 110 lbs, and lost most of my vision. I'll take that experience over a heroin overdose any day.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Well I got all excited when I read the title.

Dang kill joy. Could have at least added a cola after it. Sheesh.

Also, I rarely drink pop or coke. Water tastes better to me.

[F14A-B]

Yup, heroin use can lead to, OD, hepatitis c, HIV & a host of other life changing illness.. & puts the Public at Risk. Haphazard disposal of needles everywhere these days in my area of the state, users need money & they need it everyday..robberys, home invasions, shoplifting

( on a grand scale ) it's a completely destructive drug & disorder... To compare it in anyway, shape or form to Coke is ludicrous. I'm also just a borderline diabetic & have been for years..

[zeth]

No soda in over 16 years here but then again I am the only person here that also does not eat any animal products either. I like to stay healthy.  The food we eat is the prime cause of all disease. 

[Cgrinder]

Probably not, but you know, you do you.

[SirSnookalot]

My A1C was over 14 when I was diagnosed. I couldn't feel my legs, had dropped below 110 lbs, and lost most of my vision. I'll take that experience over a heroin overdose any day.

Mine was 14 and change also, dropped from 150 to about 125#.  First medication dropped me down fairly fast but I didn't like some of the side affects.  I've been on several different meds and have settled on a combination that's working pretty well, diet alone won't keep my sugar level where it should be.  I struggle as much with low sugar, don't spike high all that often.

In about 3 hours I'll be at a diagnostic center getting a petscan, long story so I'll spare the details.

[Oregon Native]

My A1C was over 14 when I was diagnosed. I couldn't feel my legs, had dropped below 110 lbs, and lost most of my vision. I'll take that experience over a heroin overdose any day.

Wow....mine was just over ten.  Have a fear and dislike of needles just like I don't care for snakes so I have to try and be good.  It's kind of a pain.....I so CRAVE a big maple bar but want to get things in check.  It's still amazing to me how some foods just spike your levels soooo much.  Not sure how much nuts and berries I can take!!