Rage Toad Setup And Hook

[Dypsis]

I want to start throwing these, along with the horny toad.  

 

As far as hooks - I was looking at the Owner TwistLock Open Gap Centering Pin Hook in the 5/0 or 6/0.

 

What rod do you like to throw these with, frog rod?  Line - braid?

 

Thoughts or any other recommendations.  

 

Thanks,

Matt

 

 

[zachb34]

They aren't heavy baits so you won't really need a heavy rod to throw them, unless you're throwing them into heavy cover. I always use braid because it floats, gives a good hookset, and on cover Performa the best. I use the same hooks you mentioned in a 5/0 and wouldn't go higher because it then gets too long for the baits. In summary I would choose your rod based on how heavy the cover is where you plan on fishing.

[BassinLou]

If you have a frogging setup already you will throw these plastic frogs with same outfit. Basically a MH 7ft-7'3" rod on 40lb braid minimum. 

[I.rar]

I threw the rage toad with a 4/0 ewg gammy on a MH rod. The key is to have the hook centered or it'll do everything it's not supposed to.

[Big Bait Fishing]

i would recommend trying the Owner Beast un-weighted hook in 4/0 , i now it probably would seem to be too small but i've used this size on them and i find it's the best hook for the Rage toad .

 

as far as line , i really prefer using 30 lb. braid , you get better casts than using 50-65 lb. braid .

[DaleGribble]

I would not recommend a twist lock. The rage toads nose are not particularly durable. I use keel weighted ewg hooks so they run straight even at high speed.

[War Eagle 44]

Owner Twistlock is the only way to go in my opinion. I'm not all that concerned with bait durability I'm all about hook to bite percentage and the Twistlock hooks provide that.  

[Dypsis]

Thanks everyone, should be another great tactic to add to the arsenal especially in some slop.  

 

Matt

[gardnerjigman]

I use 4/0 for horny toads but stepped up to 5/0 for rage toads. They are a thick bait with a tougher consistency than horny toads. You'll want every bit of that 5/0 to drive it home.

[hatrix]

I would not recommend a twist lock. The rage toads nose are not particularly durable. I use keel weighted ewg hooks so they run straight even at high speed.

That makes no sense. Twist locks and what you use to make a bait last longer. If you use a non twislock hook it is going to rip out the bottom of the nose really quick. I have been there done that and have a buch of toads that are still good they just nee the nose fixed. Twist locks make them last much much longer.

[gardnerjigman]

I would not recommend a twist lock. The rage toads nose are not particularly durable. I use keel weighted ewg hooks so they run straight even at high speed.

 

Do your keel weighted EWG hooks not have a twist lock on them?

[hatrix]

Do your keel weighted EWG hooks not have a twist lock on them?

Your not supposed to use a weighted hook with them. There is actually a really old BR video on here somewhere from when they first came out. It's talks all about what hook to use and how to rig them.

[gardnerjigman]

Your not supposed to use a weighted hook with them. There is actually a really old BR video on here somewhere from when they first came out. It's talks all about what hook to use and how to rig them.

Yah, I get that. I'm asking a question to the person I quoted. I don't see the point it a weighted hook for topwater, and don't know that I've seen a keel weighted hook with out a twist lock, so he has me rather confused.

[DaleGribble]

Mine don't have twist locks. The narrow nose and weak plastic of a rage toad make the twist locks rip it apart after a little mileage or one fish. I use a weight because I move them really fast and it keeps them from flipping over as well as casting farther.

[hatrix]

Yah, I get that. I'm asking a question to the person I quoted. I don't see the point it a weighted hook for topwater, and don't know that I've seen a keel weighted hook with out a twist lock, so he has me rather confused.

I see. And as for they non twist lock weighted hook they for sure make them and I have a bunch. I don't ever really use them though. You actually don't want to use non twist lock hooks on frogs. They have a 90 degree angle where it bends to the eye and it can and will catch stuff. The twist locks have a 45 degree or whatever it is and slips right over the stuff.

[Big-O]

Gammy Superline hook 5/0 or 6/0 is my choice or 6/0 1/4oz Weighted Stroker from Moaner Hooks ,

http://www.ragetail.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/toad_diagram750.jpg

[Dypsis]

Gammy Superline hook 5/0 or 6/0 is my choice or 6/0 1/4oz Weighted Stroker from Moaner Hooks ,

http://www.ragetail.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/toad_diagram750.jpg

 

There's the man, I was hoping you would chime in.

[timsford]

If you only use them topwater, you are missing out. I have a friend that uses them with a weighted hook and lets them sink then crawls them slow on the bottom. I laughed at first until he caught 3 bass over 6 lbs in one trip from a pond ive never caught one over 6 from

[Avalonjohn44]

Ribbit Double Take Hooks (they use Gamakatsu hooks) are my favorite frog hooks. They are styled after the hollow body frog hooks. Weighted or weightless, multiple sizes and they have a twistlock.  Best frog hooks around. Available at Wal-Mart (at least the ones near me...).

[bstephenson1225]

I use Owner 5/O twistloc hooks and they run perfectly straight and didn't hurt the nose at all. Lost the leg appendages before the nose was messed up. The durability of the legs are the only issue i have with the rage toads. Owner twist locks are the best hook I've found with them.