Ads7633 Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 I am about to get a new rod dedicated to finesse teqniques (drop shot, split shot/mojo, ned rig, shakey head, wacky rig). So I am going to get a medium-light spinning rod. My question is, what would be the best type of line to spool it with? I'm thinking straight Fluorocarbon is out due to handling issues, so my options are either a good copolymer or a braid to fluoro set up. What do you guys think? 2 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted July 27, 2015 Super User Posted July 27, 2015 For me it's braid. Braid for spinning, casting, everything. I use 10lb (yellow Power Pro) and 15lb (Power Pro Super Slick) on my spinning reels, and 20lb yellow PP on my casting gear. 10lb is = 2lb test mono diameter 15lb is = 4lb test mono diameter 20lb is = 6lb test mono diameter On each I'll tie a leader of copoly or fluoro anywhere from 4-15 lbs. Generally I use 6-15 leaders, but will go to 4 for when I need a very light presentation. My .02. Quote
John G Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 Sunline sniper fc in 4 or 6 pound test. I was gonna say 7# Sniper but he said no FC. Sniper is so good and reasonably priced that it's worth trying IMHO. Quote
MrBigFishSC Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 I hate to start another line debate but here goes... I have 2ML and 1M spinning setups all using Shimano reels. For these I use straight FC either Seaguar red label or Sniper in 7 or 8 lb. I spool my own and keep a few extra spools at all times. I have never had the horrific issues with straight FC that are posted. I do apply a bit of line conditioner periodically. I change out line twice per year on these reels. If you spool it right it just doesn't cause problems (for me). I am not a fan of tying leaders to braid and have fished it but again have no reason not to go straight FC. I would not follow the straight FC haters and give it a legit try. Senkos are no problem as the line doesn't sink like a rock so I can line watch easily. DS and SH cast well and the line stands up to abuse pretty well so long as you check for nicks. Knots are not as easy to tie but can be learnedly to work. Double palomar or improved clinch work great for me. Good Luck! Quote
AdamsEye Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 I hate to start another line debate but here goes... I have 2ML and 1M spinning setups all using Shimano reels. For these I use straight FC either Seaguar red label or Sniper in 7 or 8 lb. I spool my own and keep a few extra spools at all times. I have never had the horrific issues with straight FC that are posted. I do apply a bit of line conditioner periodically. I change out line twice per year on these reels. If you spool it right it just doesn't cause problems (for me). I am not a fan of tying leaders to braid and have fished it but again have no reason not to go straight FC. I would not follow the straight FC haters and give it a legit try. Senkos are no problem as the line doesn't sink like a rock so I can line watch easily. DS and SH cast well and the line stands up to abuse pretty well so long as you check for nicks. Knots are not as easy to tie but can be learnedly to work. Double palomar or improved clinch work great for me. Good Luck! Not trying to be mean so don't take it the wrong way, but the only positive from your post is not tying a leader. If you were trying to convince me, you should use the positive aspects not the negative ones. This post only makes me think of throwing FC as a lot of work versus just throwing Mono instead. Braid offers the smallest diameter which means best casting distance. The low stretch not only allows you to follow up the long cast with a solid hookset, it will also allow you to detect very subtle bites even with light and small plastics. Also if you go straight 10# braid, you will get the most natural presentation with the light weights. A FC leader will make your line ghost, while keeping most of the qualities of the braid line intact. The best of both worlds of finesse fishing. Just seems to me the only downside of braid is you might need or want a leader. But that's is why you don't use it, not why it would be better suited. Again not being mean, just looking for a positive reason to use FC. 2 Quote
blckshirt98 Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 I'd use 10-15 lb braid, and use a 7 lb FC leader. Only tricky part is the connection between the braid and FC, but I use a power swivel to avoid any breakage issues (FC is prone to getting a weak spot and breaking if you're not spot on with your knot). Quote
Hogsticker Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 All if the techniques you mentioned are considered bottom contact with some sort of weight involved with the exception of a wacky rig. I'd go with braid with the only downfall being you won't have the slack line sensitivity fluorocarbon offers with the wacky presentation, and your bait won't sink as quickly which can be good if fishing them in shallow water. I do use Sniper on my dedicated wacky rig, but the stretch drives me bonkers. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted July 28, 2015 Global Moderator Posted July 28, 2015 I'd be running braid main line with a fluoro leader, like I already do for all those techniques. I like how much more solid the hooksets are with braid versus fluoro/mono/copoly with a spinning combo. Quote
Ads7633 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Posted July 28, 2015 It seems the opinions are very split between braid to fluoro and straight fluoro Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted July 28, 2015 Global Moderator Posted July 28, 2015 I'd be running braid main line with a fluoro leader, like I already do for all those techniques. I like how much more solid the hooksets are with braid versus fluoro/mono/copoly with a spinning combo. I do the same on my only spinning outfit. (20# braid with a 12# flouro leader) In the waters I fish useing 6# to 10# anything as a mainline just gives me the chivers! Mike Quote
d-camarena Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 I use 15lb pp and 12lb sniper leader on all my spinning rigs and i love it. Im also buying a medium light and im gonna be rigging it with 10lb pp and 6lb sniper Quote
Joe H. Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 I was gonna say 7# Sniper but he said no FC. Sniper is so good and reasonably priced that it's worth trying IMHO. I've had almost zero problems with line management in sniper 6 lb test. It's definitely worth a try. 2 Quote
The Fisher Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Throwing one more opinion, I have serious problems with straight fluoro on spinning gear. But I do use 15# braid with a 8# fluoro leader and on I rig I use 6# AN40 copolymer which I love. Braid is for drop shot and finesse and the copolymer I use for rooster tails and weightless baby flukes or small jerkbaits. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 29, 2015 Super User Posted July 29, 2015 Yo-Zuri Hybrid #4, 8.5 lb breaking strength. Quote
Hogsticker Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 I tried Co poly on my bfs set up and it was terrible. It was okay for treble hooks, but I don't know how you guys are getting solid hook sets with soft, light rods, and stretchy line on much of anything else. Quote
MrBigFishSC Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Not trying to be mean so don't take it the wrong way, but the only positive from your post is not tying a leader. If you were trying to convince me, you should use the positive aspects not the negative ones. This post only makes me think of throwing FC as a lot of work versus just throwing Mono instead. Braid offers the smallest diameter which means best casting distance. The low stretch not only allows you to follow up the long cast with a solid hookset, it will also allow you to detect very subtle bites even with light and small plastics. Also if you go straight 10# braid, you will get the most natural presentation with the light weights. A FC leader will make your line ghost, while keeping most of the qualities of the braid line intact. The best of both worlds of finesse fishing. Just seems to me the only downside of braid is you might need or want a leader. But that's is why you don't use it, not why it would be better suited. Again not being mean, just looking for a positive reason to use FC. Thanks for the polite rebuttal.I wasn't promoting FC so much as defending it against the OP's comment that it's out due to handling problems. If you spool it right and I think this is a problem for some people it's no more trouble than mono. I get good castability and better sensitivity and durability than mono. I don't fish braid as a rule and don't feel I am missing out on anything with finesse techniques. That said I might setup one rod with each and experiment. Line is so subjective that it's tough to make blanket statements. I would encourage the OP to try different types for himself and decide which he prefers. 1 Quote
AdamsEye Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Thanks for the polite rebuttal. I wasn't promoting FC so much as defending it against the OP's comment that it's out due to handling problems. If you spool it right and I think this is a problem for some people it's no more trouble than mono. I get good castability and better sensitivity and durability than mono. I don't fish braid as a rule and don't feel I am missing out on anything with finesse techniques. That said I might setup one rod with each and experiment. Line is so subjective that it's tough to make blanket statements. I would encourage the OP to try different types for himself and decide which he prefers. Holla bro and I would agree with you! Like you said it's subjective for us all! I know you weren't promoting it, I just wanted to see you translate it better and the last part of your post NAILED IT! We should all encourage each other to keep an open mind, I know I need that from time to time LOL! Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted August 1, 2015 Super User Posted August 1, 2015 I tried Co poly on my bfs set up and it was terrible. It was okay for treble hooks, but I don't know how you guys are getting solid hook sets with soft, light rods, and stretchy line on much of anything else. I would agree with you that co-poly stretches more than braid. However co-poly's will generally stretch a significant amount LESS than any fluorocarbon. Quote
jtharris3 Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 I use copolymer almost exclusively on my spinning rods and have no problem what so ever with getting good hook sets with minimal effort! Quote
Big C Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 I guess braid to fluoro it is! That's a good choice. 1 Quote
greentrout Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Consider: Berkley Trilene XL. The Old School Basser... 2 Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted August 2, 2015 Super User Posted August 2, 2015 I think you ought to spool up with Gliss. Since not many have experienced it yet, you'll be as smart as the rest of us... oe Quote
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