Preytorien Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 I gave it a decent test last night for abrasion resistance. I held the line taut and rubbed it against a few different materials. I ran it both horizontally WITH the grain of the line, and perpendicular to the line....in order to simulate as many real-life scenarios we might encounter. Wood - unless you REALLY ran it over the wood, over and over again, in a rough spot, it did very well. It took about 5 minutes of really rubbing against the grain to get enough of a fray to break the line. Used a tree branch for this. Sandpaper (simulate bass teeth) - it didn't take as long as the wood, but did well here. I could see that after maybe 10 fish or so you might want to re-tie, but you should be checking anyways after every couple fish "Average" piece of limestone - surprisingly it took a decent amount of abrading to break the line, I would estimate about the same time as it took for the sandpaper. If you're fishing rock beds, rip rap, or river, you'd probably be checking your line anyways. This was your normal large-ish size of decorative landscape piece of limestone/granite. Coarse rock - the line broke almost immediately, but only after considerable pressure. If the line wasn't taut, it just kind of moved around, but tighten the line, and BAM, it broke quickly, every time I tried it. I could see this being a problem if you're fishing submerged pilings or sharp edged items under the surface. I used the corner edge of a cinder block to simulate coarse rock. So it seems that it's not quite as abrasion resistant as a 8-carrier high quality braid, but it's not that far off. I fish almost exclusively grass lakes, so these items are rarely a concern. I'll keep it on. Look for my upcoming weight-bearing observations where I'll check out true line strength and comparable knot strength. 1 Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted July 30, 2015 Super User Posted July 30, 2015 Spent 8 hours on the water today fishing the Gliss 40 lb green; first time with it. Thinner than braid with comparable strength for superior management. Already covered the diameter deal and the Management aspects were very good – trouble free. At least for today; which was pretty windy & quite gusty. Keep in mind that blade bait / trailer combo cast fairly well anyway but even still I was impressed. Hope this helps A-Jay Does trouble free include no digging of the line on spool??? Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 30, 2015 Author Super User Posted July 30, 2015 On 7/29/2015 at 10:49 PM, QUAKEnSHAKE said: Does trouble free include no digging of the line on spool??? Yes - Trouble free means No Digging in of the line on the spool. An Angler who is a routine and confident user of braided line, and can benefit from a small diameter, long casting, strong and manageable product, should be very pleased with Gliss. Additionally, first time users of braid may find the braided line learning curve a little shorter with Gliss. Disclaimer - abrasion resistance and the short line shock profile of this line has not been challenged by me yet so I have no comment on these characteristics. A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted July 31, 2015 Super User Posted July 31, 2015 When using this Gliss line on bait casting reels, are you seeing the same increase in casting distance over PE lines that you see when spooled on spinning reels. oe Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 31, 2015 Author Super User Posted July 31, 2015 When using this Gliss line on bait casting reels, are you seeing the same increase in casting distance over PE lines that you see when spooled on spinning reels. oe I've only used the line on a casting reel. The casting "distance" I've realized and reported here is relative. What I mean is - I'm not spooling my reel every time nor are the lures launching out of site. But it does seen that I'm able to get the same or more distance with less effort and when I do exert a touch more horsepower to the throw, the baits are traveling further. As for a spinning reel, the smoothness and smaller diameter should equate to some distance gains, but like I said, I've yet to put that theory to the test - soon though. A-Jay Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted July 31, 2015 Super User Posted July 31, 2015 I've only used the line on a casting reel. The casting "distance" I've realized and reported here is relative. What I mean is - I'm not spooling my reel every time nor are the lures launching out of site. But it does seen that I'm able to get the same or more distance with less effort and when I do exert a touch more horsepower to the throw, the baits are traveling further. As for a spinning reel, the smoothness and smaller diameter should equate to some distance gains, but like I said, I've yet to put that theory to the test - soon though. A-Jay When I fished NanoFil (for 2 1/2 years) I saw significant gains in casting distance with spinning reels, but no increased distance with casting reels. Just wondering if Gliss offered the same results in casting distance with each type of reel. oe Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 31, 2015 Author Super User Posted July 31, 2015 On 7/31/2015 at 8:51 AM, OkobojiEagle said: When I fished NanoFil (for 2 1/2 years) I saw significant gains in casting distance with spinning reels, but no increased distance with casting reels. Just wondering if Gliss offered the same results in casting distance with each type of reel. oe I don't know what else to tell you. I've described it the best I can. I like the stuff. I say try it. A-Jay Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted July 31, 2015 Super User Posted July 31, 2015 I don't what else to tell you. I've described it the best I can. I like the stuff. I say try it. A-Jay Yup... probably will, but most likely next season. I'll continue to read reactions to the line until then. oe Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 31, 2015 Author Super User Posted July 31, 2015 Yup... probably will, but most likely next season. I'll continue to read reactions to the line until then. oe Good Luck A-Jay Quote
Super User Master Bait'r Posted July 31, 2015 Super User Posted July 31, 2015 When I fished NanoFil (for 2 1/2 years) I saw significant gains in casting distance with spinning reels, but no increased distance with casting reels. Just wondering if Gliss offered the same results in casting distance with each type of reel. oe This actually makes perfect sense to me. On a spinning reel the characteristics of the line itself dictates how it's going to come off the spool- which is not really a functional part of the cast in the way that a casting reel is. On a casting reel, the dialing of the spool largely dictates how much line is going to come off. Sure, a lighter, smoother line will come off slightly easier but it is in large part a function of the resistance provided by the braking, spool tension and the weight of the spool & line itself- not to mention the rod loading up but that's another deal altogether. Spinning reels will have a much more immediate and noticeable difference when you change lines so to answer at least part of your question it really depends on you and the casting setup you're using n respect to how it'll do on it. I am actually really stoked to try this line. I would order some right now but I just respooled my spinning outfit with the dreaded Nano- which I like certain things about but I have limited confidence in overall. It really does sound good from the reviews and positive feedback here and I'm definitely going to be picking some up when it's time to spool up again. Quote
Megastink Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 I tried the 24lb Gliss yesterday on a drop shot yesterday, and holy cow, this stuff is for REAL! It reminds me of braid, but it's super smooth, and a lot thinner than my old 15lb Suffix 832. I use a 1/4oz drop shot weight most of the time, and was effortlessly casting 35-40 yards. When you cast, you notice no noise, unlike the dragging sound braid makes, and that goes for line coming back to the reel as well. I was using a tungsten weight, and was counting pebbles: this line is super sensitive and had zero stretch from what I could tell. I was also using a 10lb invisx leader. I didn't catch any fish, so I'm curious how this line will perform under fight pressure, but I'm very confident. I paid $28 for 300 yards: a great deal even for braided line, which this isn't, but it's similar. 1 Quote
Preytorien Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 I tried the 24lb Gliss yesterday on a drop shot yesterday, and holy cow, this stuff is for REAL! It reminds me of braid, but it's super smooth, and a lot thinner than my old 15lb Suffix 832. I use a 1/4oz drop shot weight most of the time, and was effortlessly casting 35-40 yards. When you cast, you notice no noise, unlike the dragging sound braid makes, and that goes for line coming back to the reel as well. I was using a tungsten weight, and was counting pebbles: this line is super sensitive and had zero stretch from what I could tell. I was also using a 10lb invisx leader. I didn't catch any fish, so I'm curious how this line will perform under fight pressure, but I'm very confident. I paid $28 for 300 yards: a great deal even for braided line, which this isn't, but it's similar. I've been using it (24lb) this weekend in some very weed-grown ponds. I've hooked a few north of 3lbs with what seems like 60lbs of weeds along with it. Pulled it in no problem. I've not had any breakoffs whatsoever yet. *fingers crossed* 1 Quote
WPCfishing Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I tried the 40# Gliss line. I like it for spinning reels. I'll stick with PP or 832 on my bait casters. Quote
Preytorien Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I'm leaning more and more towards using Gliss as just a spinning reel line. Based on the mechanics that go into a baitcasting reel and the action of the line leaving the reel, spinning reels seem more suited to the advantages of this line. I've been using it for over a week now, 6 outings and still going strong. It's really impressive. I would say the only issue is that I notice a bit of fraying after several landed fish, probably occurring from their rough teeth. 1 Quote
Element22 Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Hi everyone, I`ve been following your discussions. My question is which knots you use to connect Gliss with fluorocarbon and if you have some experience till now how well they work. You`ve spoken of Uni-knot or Double Palomar, but it`s mostly used for connection things like a swirl or lure to the line. Did anyone test the improved Albright-Knot? And if, is it good for connecting Gliss with fluorocarbon or did Gliss maybe cut into fluorocarbon? Or are the better knots for this two lines? Best regards, Ele Quote
Megastink Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 I use an Albright. Hasn't failed me yet. Quote
faygo1979 Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 I have it on one of my baitcasters and it is working out really well so far. Basically it feels like a smooth smaller braid. I have not had any digging issues that i sometimes run into with braid and it seems to cast well and hold up well. If it holds up I think this will replace braid for me on most of my reels. the only issue I have run into is it slipping the knot on my leader Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted August 20, 2015 Super User Posted August 20, 2015 When casting with a SPINNING REEL, does Gliss line lay on the water like a loose slinky? oe Quote
Nocturnal Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Looks like I'll be stripping some PP off of a spinning reel and trying some Gliss. If it works for me like it has for Preytorien on spinning gear then I'll be good with the only advantage being it's quiet cast and retrieve. For some reason that "braid noise" makes me twitch more with spinning gear than with casters. Then again I've only been using straight Fluro on most of my casters, so Gliss may be an all-around solution for me there as well. I've been looking for something that offers less stretch and a little more sensitivity that ISN'T braid for my casters. I'm intrigued enough to buy a couple spools worth to try for myself. Thanks to A-Jay and Preytorien God Bless 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted August 20, 2015 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2015 Looks like I'll be stripping some PP off of a spinning reel and trying some Gliss. If it works for me like it has for Preytorien on spinning gear then I'll be good with the only advantage being it's quiet cast and retrieve. For some reason that "braid noise" makes me twitch more with spinning gear than with casters. Then again I've only been using straight Fluro on most of my casters, so Gliss may be an all-around solution for me there as well. I've been looking for something that offers less stretch and a little more sensitivity that ISN'T braid for my casters. I'm intrigued enough to buy a couple spools worth to try for myself. Thanks to A-Jay and Preytorien God Bless You're most welcome and please let us know how it goes. A-Jay 1 Quote
Steveo-1969 Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 I just want to thank A-Jay and Preytorian for their in-depth reviews of this line. I saw this line mentioned on another forum (I know - SACRILEGE!!) but it was barely mentioned. Immediately came here and wouldn't you know it, lots of great information!! I've been using 10# Sufix 832 for the past several years and I've been happy with it except for casting distance. My son can easily outcast me with 8# mono using same rod specs and bait weight. This thread has me itching to try the 24# on my spinning rod!! 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted August 20, 2015 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2015 I just want to thank A-Jay and Preytorian for their in-depth reviews of this line. I saw this line mentioned on another forum (I know - SACRILEGE!!) but it was barely mentioned. Immediately came here and wouldn't you know it, lots of great information!! I've been using 10# Sufix 832 for the past several years and I've been happy with it except for casting distance. My son can easily outcast me with 8# mono using same rod specs and bait weight. This thread has me itching to try the 24# on my spinning rod!! You're welcome ~ I also use the 10lb 832 and it's very good. I think this is a little better. A-Jay 1 Quote
Steveo-1969 Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 You're welcome ~ I also use the 10lb 832 and it's very good. I think this is a little better. A-Jay Good to hear, thanks! Quote
Preytorien Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 No problem guys. A-Jay got the ball rolling, and his review convinced me to try it out. So a big shout out to his excellent review. I've been using it for a while now. I feel like I've got a good handle on the goods and bads. The goods outweigh the bads, trust me. Good... Very long casting - it's literally shocking Smooth and noiseless - a welcome thing since I seem to always end up using a 4 carrier braid Seems to be at/very close to rated weight specs Inexpensive - $15 from Ardent and TW No coating - notihng to rub off and cause discoloration Bads... Slick-ness of line means you have to find a strong and no slip knot. Fail to do this and it'll break your heart. I found a 10+ wrap SDJ or double Palomar to be the ones I don't have slippage with Prone to fraying after several fish, I Just re-tie after every other fish. Again, fail to do this and your heart will ache and you'll probably say bad words Things I've not tried... This line on a casting reel This line + leader This line for any kind of saltwater application I'll keep updating as I find more details on this line. 1 Quote
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