Gliss Monotex Line ~ A Brief Review

[Oklahoma Mike]

I was thinking about picking up some 40lb Gliss and spooling it up on a topwater baitcasting setup. Any thoughts or insights on this application from those who have used this line?

[Bluebasser86]

13 hours ago, Oklahoma Mike said:

I was thinking about picking up some 40lb Gliss and spooling it up on a topwater baitcasting setup. Any thoughts or insights on this application from those who have used this line?

I don't feel like Gliss would be a good option for casting gear from my experience with it. Or maybe I should say I think you'll negate the benefits of a line like Gliss with casting gear. 

[Preytorien]

I definitely won't be using it on my casting outfits. To me Gliss is purely a spinning line. It's really slick, so I can imagine that given it's already super thin diameter and add the slick coating, you could get some wicked dig.

[Molay1292]

I just wanted to add a little to the two great reviews that have already been presented.    I have had the opportunity to use the 18# test Gliss line on a spinning reel.   The lakes that I used the line in are both heavily infested with Zebra Muscle.  My normal choice of line for these lakes is PP Slick 8 in 10# test and a long 6-8# test FC leader.   I decided that I would test this line with no leader at all just to get a feel for what it was actually capable of.   I tied the line using the recommended knots on the packaging, uni to uni for tying to my backing and palomar to the bait.    The fishing was slow, so I went to a bait that has always produced well for me on these lakes, I tied on a Kietech 4" Easy Shiner, it wasn't long before I had the first fish on, it was not the smallmouth that I had hoped for but instead a fish that truly give the line and knots a good test, a 6# wiper.  It was not long before I had a second fish hooked up and again it was a nice 5# wiper, the line and knots performed perfectly.   The fishing slowed to almost nothing so we decided to move to lake #2, a lake that is even more infested with razor sharp Zebra Muscle, I retied checking my line, I noticed no nicks, cuts, or fraying from the previous lake.   For the new lake I chose to use the Ned Rig, it is a good bait for numbers and I have had great luck with it.    The fishing was extremely slow, without much to show for about 4hrs of fishing, however, fishing the Ned Rig in  heavy  rip rap and having many snags that I was able to free I checked my line frequently, it held up great, no fraying, no unexpected break offs, just good fishing.  

At the end of the day I showed my line to my fishing partner and it did have a small cut in the line, after fishing for more than an hour without re-tying.   He was as amazed as I,   I highly recommend this line, it is everything they say it is, in my opinion.  I have opted to move to the 24# test because of it's slightly larger diameter, makes knot tying a little easier, I have no doubt about this line and it's performance as of now, will report if something changes.

 

 

 

[Bluebasser86]

11 hours ago, Molay1292 said:

I just wanted to add a little to the two great reviews that have already been presented.    I have had the opportunity to use the 18# test Gliss line on a spinning reel.   The lakes that I used the line in are both heavily infested with Zebra Muscle.  My normal choice of line for these lakes is PP Slick 8 in 10# test and a long 6-8# test FC leader.   I decided that I would test this line with no leader at all just to get a feel for what it was actually capable of.   I tied the line using the recommended knots on the packaging, uni to uni for tying to my backing and palomar to the bait.    The fishing was slow, so I went to a bait that has always produced well for me on these lakes, I tied on a Kietech 4" Easy Shiner, it wasn't long before I had the first fish on, it was not the smallmouth that I had hoped for but instead a fish that truly give the line and knots a good test, a 6# wiper.  It was not long before I had a second fish hooked up and again it was a nice 5# wiper, the line and knots performed perfectly.   The fishing slowed to almost nothing so we decided to move to lake #2, a lake that is even more infested with razor sharp Zebra Muscle, I retied checking my line, I noticed no nicks, cuts, or fraying from the previous lake.   For the new lake I chose to use the Ned Rig, it is a good bait for numbers and I have had great luck with it.    The fishing was extremely slow, without much to show for about 4hrs of fishing, however, fishing the Ned Rig in  heavy  rip rap and having many snags that I was able to free I checked my line frequently, it held up great, no fraying, no unexpected break offs, just good fishing.  

At the end of the day I showed my line to my fishing partner and it did have a small cut in the line, after fishing for more than an hour without re-tying.   He was as amazed as I,   I highly recommend this line, it is everything they say it is, in my opinion.  I have opted to move to the 24# test because of it's slightly larger diameter, makes knot tying a little easier, I have no doubt about this line and it's performance as of now, will report if something changes.

 

 

 

Wolf to Melvern? I've been using the stuff on both and have yet to get cut off with it. Had a couple pretty good tussles with some wipers, cats, and drum as well. 

[OkobojiEagle]

17 hours ago, Molay1292 said:

I just wanted to add a little to the two great reviews that have already been presented.    I have had the opportunity to use the 18# test Gliss line on a spinning reel.   The lakes that I used the line in are both heavily infested with Zebra Muscle.  My normal choice of line for these lakes is PP Slick 8 in 10# test and a long 6-8# test FC leader.   I decided that I would test this line with no leader at all just to get a feel for what it was actually capable of.   I tied the line using the recommended knots on the packaging, uni to uni for tying to my backing and palomar to the bait.    The fishing was slow, so I went to a bait that has always produced well for me on these lakes, I tied on a Kietech 4" Easy Shiner, it wasn't long before I had the first fish on, it was not the smallmouth that I had hoped for but instead a fish that truly give the line and knots a good test, a 6# wiper.  It was not long before I had a second fish hooked up and again it was a nice 5# wiper, the line and knots performed perfectly.   The fishing slowed to almost nothing so we decided to move to lake #2, a lake that is even more infested with razor sharp Zebra Muscle, I retied checking my line, I noticed no nicks, cuts, or fraying from the previous lake.   For the new lake I chose to use the Ned Rig, it is a good bait for numbers and I have had great luck with it.    The fishing was extremely slow, without much to show for about 4hrs of fishing, however, fishing the Ned Rig in  heavy  rip rap and having many snags that I was able to free I checked my line frequently, it held up great, no fraying, no unexpected break offs, just good fishing.  

At the end of the day I showed my line to my fishing partner and it did have a small cut in the line, after fishing for more than an hour without re-tying.   He was as amazed as I,   I highly recommend this line, it is everything they say it is, in my opinion.  I have opted to move to the 24# test because of it's slightly larger diameter, makes knot tying a little easier, I have no doubt about this line and it's performance as of now, will report if something changes.

 

 

 

Please come back this coming fall and write us a time tested review...

 

oe

[Oklahoma Mike]

Picked up some 25lb and some 40lb yesterday.

Looking at the sizes, I did some comparing to Trilene XL:

Gliss                 XL    
24lb    0.007    4lb    0.008
40lb    0.010    8lb    0.010

I'm going to spool up the 24lb on a 2500 size reel and put the 40lb on a 3500. Currently on these reels I have 8lb Fireline (.007in) on the 2500 and 20lb PP (.009in) on the 3500, so size-wise there is not going to be much change from what I'm using currently. Will I still see some benefits to casting distance, or am I primarily gaining breaking strength and a quieter line?

Also, regarding leaders: I usually fish pretty stained waters and I don't worry much about line viability, but I do typically use a leader if I feel my braid may inhibit the action of my lure. So my questions are, do you feel that this line is okay for tying direct to most baits (say a Ned Rig or wacky style Senko, or topwater baits)? And if a leader is needed, what is the recommended line, flouro or mono?

Thanks for any input on this. I'm really excited to try this line out. I love the feel of braid but the noise drives me nuts.

 

[Bluebasser86]

7 minutes ago, Oklahoma Mike said:

Picked up some 25lb and some 40lb yesterday.

Looking at the sizes, I did some comparing to Trilene XL:

Gliss                 XL    
24lb    0.007    4lb    0.008
40lb    0.010    8lb    0.010

I'm going to spool up the 24lb on a 2500 size reel and put the 40lb on a 3500. Currently on these reels I have 8lb Fireline (.007in) on the 2500 and 20lb PP (.009in) on the 3500, so size-wise there is not going to be much change from what I'm using currently. Will I still see some benefits to casting distance, or am I primarily gaining breaking strength and a quieter line?

Also, regarding leaders: I usually fish pretty stained waters and I don't worry much about line viability, but I do typically use a leader if I feel my braid may inhibit the action of my lure. So my questions are, do you feel that this line is okay for tying direct to most baits (say a Ned Rig or wacky style Senko, or topwater baits)? And if a leader is needed, what is the recommended line, flouro or mono?

Thanks for any input on this. I'm really excited to try this line out. I love the feel of braid but the noise drives me nuts.

 

The casting distance increase in significant with spinning gear. 

You should have no issues if you choose to tie direct. I use a leader regardless for the extra abrasion resistance. I opt for copolymer or mono personally. 

[Molay1292]

9 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Wolf to Melvern? I've been using the stuff on both and have yet to get cut off with it. Had a couple pretty good tussles with some wipers, cats, and drum as well. 

Yes, Wolf to Melvern, figure if it holds up at those places it is probably good stuff.

[Molay1292]

3 hours ago, OkobojiEagle said:

Please come back this coming fall and write us a time tested review...

 

oe

I have spooled a couple more spinning reels with the Gliss, both in 18 and 24 lb. test.   I will report back after I have had a chance to put some time on the line.  Hope it ends up as good as I think it is going to be.

[Oklahoma Mike]

Okay, so I did spool up some 40lb on a 3500 size reel and have taken it out for 3 outings. It was difficult to judge how much backing to put on in order to get the entire 150 yards on, and I ended up having to waste the last 20 or so yards.

i used a double uni for tying to the backing and a palomar for tying baits. I did not use a leader. I was bombing casts like I never thought possible. I am truly amazed at the difference it makes in casting distance. It was also very quiet, unlike braid.

On one particular outing it was very windy, and I experienced quite a bit of wind whip, but that was to be expected. I did notice some line twist, and a few times the line would wrap the pole between the last two guides in a strange way that I've never encountered with any other type of line. 

Knots were not difficult at all to tie. Sensitivity was good but not quite as good as braid. No problem with hook sets - it seemed to fish just like braid in that regard. I didn't fish any areas where abrasion was an issue so not sure about that.

At the end of the day, I think the 40lb is a bit heavy. I really enjoyed the castability and how quiet it was, but the line did not seem as supple as I was expecting. I'm going to put some 24lb on a 2500 size and see if I like that better.

 

[Further North]

I bought some in 24 lb. and 40 lb., but have not had time to spool it up or try casting it.

Initial impressions are favorable - I can see why some folks have compares the lighter lines to floss.

[aquaholik]

Treat the 24lbs Gliss like you would treat most 8lb braids when it comes to strength. It will be about the same. Don't let the label mislead you in to thinking that it will be twice as strong as 10 lbs braid. It's not. Actually far weaker but of course it's also thinner and will cast a mile.

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

On 3/26/2016 at 0:58 PM, aquaholik said:

Treat the 24lbs Gliss like you would treat most 8lb braids when it comes to strength. It will be about the same. Don't let the label mislead you in to thinking that it will be twice as strong as 10 lbs braid. It's not. Actually far weaker but of course it's also thinner and will cast a mile.

I did some quick home style knot strength tests with some 40# Gliss I recently purchased. I haven't used the line yet these tests on fresh line. With double palomar I got 16-17 pounds, with through eye twice 6 turn uni knot 20 pounds and with line doubled then put through eye twice 6 turn uni knot 24 pound knot strength.

[aquaholik]

On 11/6/2016 at 7:41 PM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

I did some quick home style knot strength tests with some 40# Gliss I recently purchased. I haven't used the line yet these tests on fresh line. With double palomar I got 16-17 pounds, with through eye twice 6 turn uni knot 20 pounds and with line doubled then put through eye twice 6 turn uni knot 24 pound knot strength.

You tied a good knot. Gliss 40 # unknotted strength is around 35 lbs but it's FG knot strength is only around 24 lbs. I tested two spools multiple time. I can get an FG knot strength of close to 30 lbs if I finish it with a bobbin finish using 18lbs Gliss. And the PR knot comes in at 33 lbs, about 92%.

I get similar result with Palomar Knot, 16-17 lbs. Every time I test Palomar knot in braid, it comes in no better than 58% with most results around the 50% mark. Palomar in mono comes in around 70%.

For example, J braid 20 lbs. ABS at 45 lbs , Palomar knot broke at 25.90 lbs

Suffix Superior mono 30 lbs test. ABS is 48 lbs, and Palomar knot broke at 31.55 lbs. Yes it breaks above the label strength but it is a long way from being a 100% knot in mono or braid.

BTW, the Benjamin knot broke at 70% in braid and 100 % in mono.

30lbs Suffix Superior mono broke at 48 lbs and J braid 20 lbs broke at 32.95 lbs(ABS 45 lbs).

[Preytorien]

I usually get good breaking strength with a San Diego Jam Knot - with about 8-10 loops in it. I use almost exclusively 24lb for my setup.

[The Bassman]

 

Hi all. New member here.  I've been following this thread for some time.  A Jay's & Preytorian's input has influenced me to put this stuff into my spinning lineup.  Here's my takeaway:

1.  24 lb.  is the bomb for just about all my applications.

2.  The stuff is great new but degrades fast.  Not a big deal because cost is close to most 4 strands.

3.  My go to knot is the double eye loop uni or "fishin' fool" knot.  No slippage issues.

4.  Abrasion resistance is on par with thin braids (not too great).

5.  Don't use a leader.  Just don't like the extra knot.

6.  No wind knot issues if I don't overfill spool.

[A-Jay]

2 hours ago, The Bassman said:

 

Hi all. New member here.  I've been following this thread for some time.  A Jay's & Preytorian's input has influenced me to put this stuff into my spinning lineup.  Here's my takeaway:

1.  24 lb.  is the bomb for just about all my applications.

2.  The stuff is great new but degrades fast.  Not a big deal because cost is close to most 4 strands.

3.  My go to knot is the double eye loop uni or "fishin' fool" knot.  No slippage issues.

4.  Abrasion resistance is on par with thin braids (not too great).

5.  Don't use a leader.  Just don't like the extra knot.

6.  No wind knot issues if I don't overfill spool.

Hello and Welcome to Bass Resource ~

Thanks for your input.

A-Jay

[Preytorien]

22 hours ago, The Bassman said:

 

Hi all. New member here.  I've been following this thread for some time.  A Jay's & Preytorian's input has influenced me to put this stuff into my spinning lineup.  Here's my takeaway:

1.  24 lb.  is the bomb for just about all my applications.

2.  The stuff is great new but degrades fast.  Not a big deal because cost is close to most 4 strands.

3.  My go to knot is the double eye loop uni or "fishin' fool" knot.  No slippage issues.

4.  Abrasion resistance is on par with thin braids (not too great).

5.  Don't use a leader.  Just don't like the extra knot.

6.  No wind knot issues if I don't overfill spool.

I agree, I've attempted the leader option, and while I don't get any slippage, it's only because I have to do about 10 wraps each way on an Alberto knot, and that ends up making the knot more difficult to tie and more bulky than I like. 

[JediAmoeba]

Necromancy.

 

Anyway, is anyone still using this line?  I bought 5 or 6 spools of this on clearance a few years ago and never tried it - I read all kinds of negative reviews after I bought it and decided against trying it.  However, the line really piques my curiosity in regards to the great casting distance.  

[JustJames]

You should try it yourself, you already have 5 spool of lines. Im still using it 18lb on my crappie rig. The line sink faster than braid and I think I feel crisper bite. The line frayed easily even with my rough finger and don’t get tangled it super hard to undone. I use it on my baitcaster, and I use a short length leader. What lbs do you have?

[Choporoz]

After a few years, I still use it on spinning reels.  18 is the sweet spot for spinning, for me.  Still love it for bass. With and without a leader.  Only time I regretted having it spooled was on a trip to NW  Ontario for walleye and pike.  Even with a leader, super sharp rocky lakes make it pretty fragile.  Down here in VA, the rocks are kinder.  Holds up well in wood.  

Whatever shortcomings it might have, are completely blown away by the superior manageability,  castability, sensitivity.   Pink is probably best all around color.  Moss is nearly invisible....good for fish...bad for line watching.  Chartreuse is bright, but if you are concerned bass might be line shy, well...this is blindingly bright.

[A-Jay]

 After 6 years, 6 months, and 20 days ~

I'm circling back on this one.

And yes, I took the long way.

 

Just had a request for a follow up on my Gliss Line experience.

I'm adding it below . . . 

 

I initially tried Gliss - looking for a low stretch, manageable line that had decent abrasion resistance as well as some "reasonable' durability & longevity on the reel.

As it turned out - there was one major problems IME.

Longevity - it didn't have much.

Knots were OK for me.

It was 'low' stretch, at least when compared to mono & FC.

Manageability was 'OK' on both casting & spinning gear.

But the line just did not last. 

 

Stayed with it on the spools I initially purchased until

it frayed/fuzzed up so badly that it was obvious the tinsel strength

was compromised and it need to be replaced.

And I did that - With something else.

Sadly this was caused simply by using the line.

Just running it through the guides was enough to damage it. 

Don't remember how long it took, but know it was well in advance of just about any other line I'd used ; especially with some of the good stuff out there now.

IMO there's just no need to use this as just about any quality braid will be better.

I use Smackdown & 832 and they both get it done and LAST for years on the reel. 

YMMV

A-Jay

[FrankN209]

Same here. Was quiet, cast really good, good strength, but it frayed really easy. I stopped using it. I have new spools of it, but it just sits in my line box.

[Choporoz]

I'm still using 18# to fluoro leader on a couple spinning rods.  Having a leader eliminates nearly all the fraying and longetivity problems for me.