Frog Rod

[Master Bait'r]

Batson, It is my understanding that the new 2015/Castaway Skeleton V2 Casting Rods are using the Rainshadow Revelation rod blanks. Anything you could tell me about this, I am interested in purchasing one of those rod's to test out and see how I like it. I have noticed that castaway has a 7'4 extra heavy action with a mod-fast taper listed but the rainshadow revelation line does not have this same blank listed. Thank you.

You would probably be best served by just calling up DVT and chatting with him about what you're looking for in a frog rod. What characteristics you want etc. You can see above that not everyone can agree on what makes a good frog rod and it really helps with your enjoyment if you can say what it is you are looking for i.e.- soft or stiff tip and how much, where do you like the backbone to kick in, how heavy the baits, how heavy the cover and what size the average lunker is in your area etc. if you don't know, he can help you figure it out. It's tough to keep that string of thought on the internet.

[Batson]

Batson, It is my understanding that the new 2015/Castaway Skeleton V2 Casting Rods are using the Rainshadow Revelation rod blanks. Anything you could tell me about this, I am interested in purchasing one of those rod's to test out and see how I like it. I have noticed that castaway has a 7'4 extra heavy action with a mod-fast taper listed but the rainshadow revelation line does not have this same blank listed. Thank you.

Hi SenkoGuru, The new Castaway Skeleton V2 are amazing rods for the money. They are using the Revelation blanks as their rod blanks, also if you look, they are using the ALPS split seat, ALPS guides, etc.. Great performance vs value!! 

http://www.westernbass.com/forum/icast-2015-batson-russ-lane-castaway-rod-soft-touch-grip-t96996.html

http://www.westernbass.com/forum/post548059.html#p548059

You will see the Castaway hang tag featuring: RainShadow Rod Blanks and ALPS Hangtags

 

I hope this helps.. Ask away if you have any questions. 

 

You would probably be best served by just calling up DVT and chatting with him about what you're looking for in a frog rod. What characteristics you want etc. You can see above that not everyone can agree on what makes a good frog rod and it really helps with your enjoyment if you can say what it is you are looking for i.e.- soft or stiff tip and how much, where do you like the backbone to kick in, how heavy the baits, how heavy the cover and what size the average lunker is in your area etc. if you don't know, he can help you figure it out. It's tough to keep that string of thought on the internet.

 

You know we are experts as well. lol We can educate and help out as much as possible as well as DVT. But it really depends on your area of fishing. The frog rods in Okeechobee are different than Alabama. We have built custom rods for pros that also like it different. 

[DTack]

Not sure if this rod has been purchased yet but I have to echo one or two of the posts here and say a Dobyns 736 is not too heavy for frog fishing.  It is made for frog fishing.  There is no reason at all even in open water to sit there and "play" a frog fish.  Take the heavy rod and braided line and put them to use.  Start doing things right and you won't lose as many fish, it's plain and simple at that point.

We just had a "frogs only" tournament out here on the California Delta, listening to lost fish stories at weigh in was arguably the best part!

[Master Bait'r]

Hi SenkoGuru, The new Castaway Skeleton V2 are amazing rods for the money. They are using the Revelation blanks as their rod blanks, also if you look, they are using the ALPS split seat, ALPS guides, etc.. Great performance vs value!!

http://www.westernbass.com/forum/icast-2015-batson-russ-lane-castaway-rod-soft-touch-grip-t96996.html

http://www.westernbass.com/forum/post548059.html#p548059

You will see the Castaway hang tag featuring: RainShadow Rod Blanks and ALPS Hangtags

I hope this helps.. Ask away if you have any questions.

You know we are experts as well. lol We can educate and help out as much as possible as well as DVT. But it really depends on your area of fishing. The frog rods in Okeechobee are different than Alabama. We have built custom rods for pros that also like it different.

Well yeah haha I just meant that DVT uses the same blanks you are talking about and sometimes it helps to just have an actual conversation. Not that your explanation was lacking at all because it was fantastic, but it's also easy to roll that convo into a sale insofar as "yes that sounds perfect let's do it" rather than "ah yes that sounds good I'll look into it" which can be easy to put off

[Batson]

No Problem! Internet unfortunately doesnt ever convey emotions! We are all here to help out as much as possible. You can call into our sales staff and talk to them as well. We hear from many parts of the country on "what is the best" and it really depends on the person, not really what others say. Different areas have different ways to fish. Unfortunately in the custom world, this is both good and bad. Good=alot of selection and build the perfect rod. Bad=too much selection it can make you go crazy. lol

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

A rod for hollow belly frog baits is one of the more technique specific IMO. You need the power due to the cover, but also a tip that will load, cast and aid in bait presentation. Rainshadow blanks are high quality and have a robust line to choose from as does MHX and others. Many are listed as "Frog" rod blanks, others you'll need to talk to a rep or builder that's used the blank you're considering. In the past I used In-shore blanks as frog rods to get the power/action I was looking for so think outside the box and don't get too hung up on labels. 

[Robert Riley]

Here is what someone at Dobyns told me when I recently inquired about a frog rod:
"For frogs, I would step it up a power to the 735. The 734 lacks the power for frogs. Even if you are fishing them in open water, the 734 doesn't have the power to get good hook penetration with hollow body frogs. The frog style hooks spread apart on hook sets, and work against you on getting good hook penetration. So I really would recommend going with the 735. For both hollow body, and buzzing frogs."

 

I currently use my DX745 just because I don't have any heavier rods. Here's what he said about that:
"To be honest I do not recommend the DX745C as a frog rod, the DX line was designed and built to be the best and most sensitive contact bait rod you can fish with and they do a very good job at those techniques however the Champion series are much better suited for baits like frogs, buzz frogs or buzz baits. I highly recommend the Champion 735C. The Champ 735C has just a little more power than the DX745C does and it also has a better action for frog fishing. I would love to recommend a DX745C for you but the truth is that the Champion 735C will be a better choice with the right action and power for frog fishing."
 

[Big Bait Fishing]

get a 7' or longer heavy powered rod with a fast or extra fast tip , pretty basic , consider a frog as a top water jig , feel the bite (or see ) tension on the line , set the hook with a stout rod and pull the fish out of the slop ...

[poisonokie]

Dobyns 736 is a bit much fit frogging. I'd suggest a tatula 7'2 H or *** black 7'3H.

the tatula 741HFB is built for frogging. They are light and powerful and can easily double up for c rigs and even deep cranks. Also, the handles are extraordinary. You can really wrench out a pig. And if you like full grips, well, they're close and more comfortable anyway IMO.