Aetain Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Hello, I have been reading this forum for a while and finally decided to join. I am in need for a frog rod and have been looking at a dobyns 736c. The lily pads in tge lakes I fish can be moderately heavy at times, but rhey are mostly light. If anyone could recommend a St. Croix frog rod (avid) or another brand, that would be great. Quote
Aetain Posted July 22, 2015 Author Posted July 22, 2015 I'd prefer a full handle grip. Thank you for your recommendation. Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted July 22, 2015 Super User Posted July 22, 2015 I'd prefer a full handle grip. Thank you for your recommendation. Which Dobyns 736 were you considering? If you find the 736 to be too much, then look into the 735's. I have both families of rods that you mentioned. I use the Avid as a frog rod, but when the cover gets thick and knarly I take out the Champion 736. Good luck with your choice. Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted July 22, 2015 Super User Posted July 22, 2015 If you want to stick with the Avid line you'd want the 7' H/F. You could possibly get away with a MH/F depending on cover, but I think it's better to have a little beefier rod because it still does just fine in the lighter cover, and when it gets heavy you are still good to go. Quote
Aetain Posted July 22, 2015 Author Posted July 22, 2015 How is the avid 7 foot heavy compared to the dobyns 736c? Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 My vote goes to the Powell Max 3D 736 CEF. Quote
Aetain Posted July 23, 2015 Author Posted July 23, 2015 Which 736 is too much? The dobyns or powell? Quote
Jon G Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Which 736 is too much? The dobyns or powell? Dobyns Quote
bigfishbk86 Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Dobyns 736 is a bit much fit frogging. I'd suggest a tatula 7'2 H or *** black 7'3H. 1 Quote
Aetain Posted July 23, 2015 Author Posted July 23, 2015 Thanks for the input so far. How is the 735c compared to a st croix 7ft mh fast? Another thing, is a revo stx, chronarch 201e7 or pfleuger patriarch low profile a better frog reel? Quote
Jon G Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Personally, for frogs I would go with the 735 and would never look back. It's perfectly balanced and has the perfect tip for frogs. Don't get me wrong I love St. Croix but for a frogging rod the 735 can't be beat. Any of those reels would work. I would personally use the Chronarch since I'm a Shimano guy. Quote
Aetain Posted July 23, 2015 Author Posted July 23, 2015 Any idea where I can get a dobyns rod cheaper than 250? 1 Quote
Jon G Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Any idea where I can get a dobyns rod cheaper than 250? I sent you a PM about it. Quote
Batson Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 Any idea where I can get a dobyns rod cheaper than 250? Go custom! You can get one built that will blow you away for that price! Also its built properly!! Quote
Super User Master Bait'r Posted July 25, 2015 Super User Posted July 25, 2015 OP just wanted to say that flat out power and stiffness in a rod is far from ideal. With frogs you really want a softer tip and a progressive backbone. Most frogs weigh around a half ounce or 3/4 at the most. An ex heavy is not going to load the tip very well and casting distance will suffer. Also it will be much harder to "walk the dog" and you may find that fish don't stay pinned quite the same once you set the hook. Unless you are in the heaviest of cover situations or expecting DD monsters, I'd stick with a heavy powered rod (I ise a Heavy extra fast *** and love it) or like the 735 Dobyns which is a MH but has a very versatile progressive flex to it and lots of people swear by it. 1 Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 OP just wanted to say that flat out power and stiffness in a rod is far from ideal. With frogs you really want a softer tip and a progressive backbone. Most frogs weigh around a half ounce or 3/4 at the most. An ex heavy is not going to load the tip very well and casting distance will suffer. Also it will be much harder to "walk the dog" and you may find that fish don't stay pinned quite the same once you set the hook. Unless you are in the heaviest of cover situations or expecting DD monsters, I'd stick with a heavy powered rod (I ise a Heavy extra fast *** and love it) or like the 735 Dobyns which is a MH but has a very versatile progressive flex to it and lots of people swear by it. As I've stated many times before frogs are my favorite way to fish so I spend quite a bit of time throwing one. I couldn't disagree more with this opinion on rod choice. Many guys use the Dobyns 736 for all of their frog fishing, example being Matt Allen. I've always used a Powell Max 735 mag heavy and love it. I throw all of my frogs and toads on this rod no matter if it's heavy vegetation or open water. I've just recently picked up a Max 3D 736 and I love it even more than the original Max. I have absolutely zero trouble casting for distance, accuracy, skipping or working/walking my frogs. I've also never had any trouble with fish coming unbuttoned. As with most everything in life there is more than one way to go about doing something and that means there will always be different opinions about the best way to go about it. These are just MY opinions, nothing more. I'm certainly not trying to say that I'm right and the guy above is wrong. His opinion means just as much as mine. Quote
Super User Master Bait'r Posted July 26, 2015 Super User Posted July 26, 2015 As I've stated many times before frogs are my favorite way to fish so I spend quite a bit of time throwing one. I couldn't disagree more with this opinion on rod choice. Many guys use the Dobyns 736 for all of their frog fishing, example being Matt Allen. I've always used a Powell Max 735 mag heavy and love it. I throw all of my frogs and toads on this rod no matter if it's heavy vegetation or open water. I've just recently picked up a Max 3D 736 and I love it even more than the original Max. I have absolutely zero trouble casting for distance, accuracy, skipping or working/walking my frogs. I've also never had any trouble with fish coming unbuttoned. As with most everything in life there is more than one way to go about doing something and that means there will always be different opinions about the best way to go about it. These are just MY opinions, nothing more. I'm certainly not trying to say that I'm right and the guy above is wrong. His opinion means just as much as mine. Yes this is absolutely true- to each his own and what is "right" for one person can easily be "wrong" for another. I was simply relating my personal struggles in finding my perfect frog rod. I really had trouble with rods that were too broomsticky but many guys like them that way as it is easier to flip the fish on top of the cover. Some MHs feel stiffer through the tip than other H rods, and it really is a personal preference in any case. I run a HXF rod but in many ways it behaves better for me than my previously owned MHF blanks when on paper it shouldn't have been that way according to my tastes. Quote
Kyrazzy7 Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 i just bought the duckett terex dean rojas model 7' MH and man is this rod a beast. perfect for throwing frogs a long way and is really sensitive. also has a great back bone. first day out with it i caught my new PB at 4lb 3oz and swung it out of the water with no issue! check it out. its currently 159.99 on TW Quote
sofarfrome Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 Dobyn's Champion 735. Excellent frogging rod. Quote
Super User WRB Posted July 30, 2015 Super User Posted July 30, 2015 IRod Fred's Magic stick, gen 2. Tom Quote
BDfishing Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Go custom! You can get one built that will blow you away for that price! Also its built properly!! What blank Quote
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SenkoGuru Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Batson, It is my understanding that the new 2015/Castaway Skeleton V2 Casting Rods are using the Rainshadow Revelation rod blanks. Anything you could tell me about this, I am interested in purchasing one of those rod's to test out and see how I like it. I have noticed that castaway has a 7'4 extra heavy action with a mod-fast taper listed but the rainshadow revelation line does not have this same blank listed. Thank you. 1 Quote
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