5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Just installed a Sting Ray hydrofoil stabilizer for my 16 foot Cajun with a 70 Johnson 2 stroke. What a difference!!! Hole shot feels like I was launched by a giant rubber band! No more porpoising (even with trim adjusted). Faster top end and better gas mileage. Feels like a 170 instead of a 70!!! Best $50 at BPS I ever spent!! Quote
5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted July 15, 2015 Author Posted July 15, 2015 The material seems real sturdy and the install even with drilling was about 5 minutes. :-) Quote
Super User Scott F Posted July 15, 2015 Super User Posted July 15, 2015 I've been using one for years. Works great on my boat that is a bit underpowered. Most guys here will tell you you should have spent more money on a bigger engine so you wouldn't need the hydrofoil. They're right, but short of spending thousands of dollars re-powering, it does help the boat get on plane faster and stay on plane at lower RPMs. 1 Quote
5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted July 16, 2015 Author Posted July 16, 2015 My boat came with the 70 when I bought it and it has been very strong and reliable. Don't see the need to upgrade the motor especially when it boogies pretty good. Scoots along even better now. :-) Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted July 16, 2015 Super User Posted July 16, 2015 I've been using one for years. Works great on my boat that is a bit underpowered. Most guys here will tell you you should have spent more money on a bigger engine so you wouldn't need the hydrofoil. They're right, but short of spending thousands of dollars re-powering, it does help the boat get on plane faster and stay on plane at lower RPMs. Same here. Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted July 16, 2015 Super User Posted July 16, 2015 Kind of frowned upon in the bass boat community. There's definitely a place for them because they do work, but they're usually the sign of a poor performance, under powered, or poorly propped boat. If your boat is under-powered it's definitely a cheaper alternative to re-powering, but in most applications a very similar result from a smaller prop, and that usually puts your rpm's in the correct range as well. Quote
5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted July 16, 2015 Author Posted July 16, 2015 There are guys that fish in tournaments with me down here and they use them as welL. I am replacing my prof with a higher pitch in a stainless steel version this week. My 70 hp Johnson on my 16 foot bass boat is very strong for what I have. However there is nothing wrong with wanting a little bit more kick in the pants. :-) Quote
Super User Way2slow Posted July 16, 2015 Super User Posted July 16, 2015 I hate to say this, but you need to rethink what you are doing. If you are already running a whale tale to help get on plane because it was struggling before, when you go to a higher pitch prop, it's going to be even harder to get on plane. Plus, if the motor is not already turning near max rpm with your current prop, when you go to a higher pitch, it's probably going to make the boat run slower. Basically, going by your first post, there is a chance you are already over propped, and going to even a higher pitch is going make things a whole lot worse. I would make sure who you get the prop from has a try before you buy agreement because you could be throwing a whole bunch of money away. Now, as for going with the stainless, yes, a stainless in the same pitch will out perform an aluminum, but you can't just throw any pitch you want on a motor and expect it to perform, they just don't work that way. Quote
5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted July 16, 2015 Author Posted July 16, 2015 I hate to say this, but you need to rethink what you are doing. If you are already running a whale tale to help get on plane because it was struggling before, when you go to a higher pitch prop, it's going to be even harder to get on plane. Plus, if the motor is not already turning near max rpm with your current prop, when you go to a higher pitch, it's probably going to make the boat run slower. Basically, going by your first post, there is a chance you are already over propped, and going to even a higher pitch is going make things a whole lot worse. I would make sure who you get the prop from has a try before you buy agreement because you could be throwing a whole bunch of money away. Now, as for going with the stainless, yes, a stainless in the same pitch will out perform an aluminum, but you can't just throw any pitch you want on a motor and expect it to perform, they just don't work that way. Since you put it that way, I will keep the same pitch and just go to the stainless steel from the aluminum. :-) Quote
Super User Way2slow Posted July 16, 2015 Super User Posted July 16, 2015 As for the hydrofoil, I have to disagree. Most people don't/won't run them because the look dorky as ***l. They will greatly improve the whole shot on any boat you put one on. Now, the big whale tale, no I would not put that on my boat, but I do run a SE Sport 300 and trust me, this is not on a motor that's too small and underpowered for my boat. Not unless you consider 326hp@6,200rpm and 300 pound feet of torque at 4,500 rpm not to be enough power for a 20' Javelin, and for a long time it was on a Stratos 285 PRO. I have to admit, when I first installed it, it was to fix a prop problem, the motor would blow a stock 26" Raker prop out just as it started to lay over. So bad you had to come completely off the gas and pedal it to get it to bite, but at WOT, it was turning 6,600-6,800rpm with an 11% slip (do the math and you will see it was flying) I put the SE Sport on just until I could get the prop to the tuner and back. I will also say I was almost embarrassed to show up at the ramp with that thing sticking out the back of my motor but after running it for a while, When I got my tuned prop back, I had fallen in luv with the way the boat shot out of the hole with it, it became a permeate part of that motor. Been running that dorky looking thing for seven years now. Granted, I've never installed one on my 225 Ficht because I don't want that dorky looking thing on it and I know if I did, I would want to leave it, and then have all ya'll thinking. It WILL improve hole shot on any boat, but most had rather have all that extra bow rise, that that thing on the back of their boat and a fairly straight launce. Quote
5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted July 16, 2015 Author Posted July 16, 2015 It actually doesn't look too bad. It is not the BIG one and it is not the junior. It's in the middle. Quote
Big C Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 I don't want that dorky looking thing on it and I know if I did, I would want to leave it, and then have all ya'll thinking. If I installed a box fan to the back of my yak to make a air boat, would you call me a dork? Quote
Big C Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 BTW. I am not insuing that the Sting Ray is that bad. Quote
5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted July 18, 2015 Author Posted July 18, 2015 I am so glad that this is a case of "to each his own". I've had several compliments on it that it "suits the boats lines". Additionally it added 3mph, made my hole shot like a dragster, and I can hit choppy water at WOT and feel like I'm on glass. With all of this said I firmly believe that this is the BEST $49 I put into my boat. Quote
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