Braid Twisting On Spinning

[BucketMouth15]

My dad is using 30 lbs power pro braid on a spinning reel, about once every time we are fishing the line gets loops In it on the reel so that he has to take a bunch of line off and get the loop out. Sometimes its even had enough even cut some length off because it is knotted. I have no problems like this with my baitcaster.. Wondering why this is happening?

[Felix77]

Is there too much line on the spool?  That's the only time it seems to happen to me.

 

FWIW - The most I spool on my spinning reels is 15lb.

[flyfisher]

too much line or he isn't getting out the slack before his first reel.  I always manually close the bail while there is still a little tension on the line and no longer run into the line twist problem you are mentioning.

[Josh Smith]

Reeling against the drag?

[FrankW]

If he is closing the bail by reeling then that is probably his problem. If he closes the bail by hand and pulls the line tight to the reel, this won't happen. Having too much line on the spool also causes this problem.

Frank

[stk]

Could be a combination of things.  Overfilling the spool, wind knots, reeling to flip the bail.  I rarely use my spinning reels anymore but one thing I try to remember to do is make sure there is some tension on the line before reeling.

[the reel ess]

I usually put too much line on a spinning reel and then let the reel tell me how much I need to cut off (by tangling). That said, I bought a Pfleuger Trion and it won't get twisted. I LOVE that reel!

 

It also matters how you spool it. Lay the line spool down the opposite (mirror image) of the way it goes on you reel spool. If you have it backwards, it'll let you know quickly. If you reel it straight off the spool with someone holding a pencil in the center, it will twist like crazy. Here's a tip. If you're in a boat, let out almost all the line with no bait attached behind the boat. Then reel it up. That'll take most twist out. Also, I don't use lures that twist like in-line spinners. That's always going to happen with those, even on BC reels and even if you use a swivel.

 

last thing I can think of is that some reels have a smaller diameter spool that just doesn't do well with heavier lines. The braid should be limp though.

 

And tell him to flip the bail by hand! It gets a loop in it a lot when you don't. They shouldn't even make spinning reels that auto-flip.

[SirSnookalot]

Crank close or hand close keeping the line tight by raising the rod before reeling will avoid loops. The advantage to hand closing is a more fluid movement,has little to do with loops or twist. Line twist is a different issue,it's the wrapping around the spool, as opposed to the "winch" of a b/c.

[the reel ess]

Also, don't reel against the drag. when the drag is going, let it go out. But that doesn't sound like what's happening.

 

I'll tell you I have a buddy who can screw up a spinning reel in a heartbeat. We put our kayaks in the river once. Before we even started paddling he had the line on a spinning reel completely screwed for the day. His personal record is third cast on a reel I just spooled. I said "How old are you? I can fish all day with that combo." I finally gave him a combo so he'd quit messing mine up.

[J Francho]

Twist still happens when you use braid on a spinner, despite what thousands of supporters say. It generally manifests as what we refer to as wind knots. The whole braid eliminates twist is a myth. It decreases the effects, and introduces a new problem. Luckily, the solution is simple: troll your line out, just like with other single filament lines.

[BucketMouth15]

Thanks for all the input guys. Think I've narrowed it down.

[blckshirt98]

Could be a combination of things.  Overfilling the spool, wind knots, reeling to flip the bail.  I rarely use my spinning reels anymore but one thing I try to remember to do is make sure there is some tension on the line before reeling.

 

All three of these, and if it's on the reel itself I'm suspecting it's reeling to flip the bail instead of flipping it manually.