d_rosss Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 I've always used two piece rods what i have now is the abu garcia vegeance two piece 6'6 casting and 7 ft spinning rod. Im trying to upgrade but i noticed there isn't any higher quality rods that arent 1 piece. Should i just get a 1 piece. Quote
Tim Kelly Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 St Croix do a few spinning rods in 2 piece in their avid and legend ranges. 3 Quote
cadman Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 I used to have to buy two piece rods, because my old boat did not have storage for one piece rods,unless I left the rods out and on the floor. With that said, when I got my new boat I immediately switched over to one piece rods and never looked back. One piece rods are much more sensitive, and you don't have to worry about the rods pieces separating after many repetitive casts. Go to one piece, you won't be sorry if one piece rods will work for you. JMO Quote
BocaGrande Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 If you want to stick with the vengeance or even better, the vendetta, go with a 1 piece. Especially at length 6'6ft. isn't too long so storage is pretty easy. 1 piece gives you more strength and sensitivity. Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted July 10, 2015 Super User Posted July 10, 2015 FWIW - I have a collection of 2 and 3 piece rods for when I travel. For the Toledo Bend trip I took 2 2-piece (Abu Vengeance) and 2 3-Piece (Bass Pro Extremes). 2 baitcasters (M and MH) 2 spinning (M and MH) I can cover my entire tacklebox with these rods without any real issues. Look into the BassPro Extreme, Browning Travel and you already mentioned the St. Croix which looks nice. The St. Croix I saw was 4 pieces. If I had a choice between 1 and 2 piece rods I would always get a 1 piece. It really all depends on your need for storage, portability etc. Hope this helps. Quote
Deeare Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 If you buy a 1 piece over 7 ft be careful when carrying it in and out of house, through doors, etc. It took me a while to get use to...almost broke a tip once or twice. But I agree that 1 piece rods are better overall. Just tougher to store and move. 1 Quote
Super User Raul Posted July 10, 2015 Super User Posted July 10, 2015 Yes there are good quality 2 and more pieces rods in the market, the catch is: you may not find what you want in your favorite manufacturer´s line up. GLoomis has very good quality 2 piece rods, and there are many other manufacturers that offer them ( mostly Japanese manufacturers ), it´s just a matter of looking around. Quote
Nashua Nev Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 2 piece rods for me. storage , in and out of truck. etc... Quote
Flippin4Biggins Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 Umm I'll say this i have a 7ft ugly stick I paired with a budget reel and I can feel Bites with that way better then I can with my ultra light crappie poles and those are nice two piece rods. Plus you don't have to worry about hook sets and the pole coming out hahaha those are classic Quote
Super User MickD Posted July 13, 2015 Super User Posted July 13, 2015 I disagree that high quality two piece rods are significantly/detectably less sensitive that one piece rods. Would be interesting to run a blindfold test. I'm talking the St Croix line, specifically, since they have a good number of two piece rods. One advantage of one piece is that it never comes apart, a rare but possible occurence. Regarding the carrying of long rods, carry them butt first, with the tip trailing, and it is much less likely to be damaged. Especially with long fly rods carried through brush, butt first. Of course you also want to avoid ceiling fans. Quote
ThatZX14Fella Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 Unless you have to get it in and out of tight spots, go with one piece. I always hated two piece rods. Quote
Lunker Addict Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 I used to use 2 piece rods exclusively and loved them. I will say though that once I moved to the 1 piece rods I never looked back. I do have a couple Fenwick 7ft HMG 2 piece rods just in case I need one but I don't take them out much. Quote
masterbass Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 The main reason I went with a 1 piece is something you already alluded to...selection. A whole new world of choices open up to you. Quote
hawkoath Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 The absolute top of the line rods (i.e. St. Croix Legend Xtreme, G.Loomis NRX, etc...) are one piece rods. Well even the GLX, Legend Elites, etc.. are mostly one piece rods as well with the exception of the: G.Loomis MBR 783-2 C GLX You can go JDM though. I believe Major Craft and other JDM companies have two piece rods you can buy. And if you really need a two piece rod you can also get one from a custom rod maker. Quote
Super User Further North Posted July 14, 2015 Super User Posted July 14, 2015 Back in May I had an interesting conversation with the owner of Fly South down in Nashville ( was down there on business and wandered into the shop on a Saturday). His take (and any errors here are mine, not his) was that there is one overlooked advantage of multi-piece rods: Each section of a multi-piece rod can be built with differently with the specific function of that part of the rod in mind. That isn't an option with a one piece...yes, they can taper the materials to produce a fast action, or a slower one...but the maker of the multi-piece rod has even more options. The discussion revolved around fly rods (a one piece 9 ft. rod is a pain in the fanny no matter how "sensitive" it is)...most of my fly rods are 4 piece - I have a a couple of three piece rods, and two or three two piece...and there's no appreciable difference in overall feel or performance...and I have no less confidence in the multi piece rods. A thought on rod storage of multi-piece rods in the boat - I store my rods rigged and ready to go as I don't want to be fiddling round with putting a rod together and rigging it when I am on fish...so the few two piece spinning and bait casting rods I own are always together unless I am traveling with them without the boat. Same for my fly rods. Quote
Nashua Nev Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 i tried 1 piece, for me in and out of truck , house etc... i broke the tips. I have no problems with my 2 piece rods. Quote
gailt Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 If you buy a 1 piece over 7 ft be careful when carrying it in and out of house, through doors, etc. It took me a while to get use to...almost broke a tip once or twice. But I agree that 1 piece rods are better overall. Just tougher to store and move. That can be a problem, ceiling fans are the worst menace ever invented to destroy a fishing rod. well other than a careless partner. Quote
Last_Cast Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 IMO 2 piece rods are more convenient, especially if your car is small (like mine). Personally I like the 1 piece rods better, more sensitive, dont have to worry about the top piece flying off or twisting. I have a few 2 piece and 1 piece rods though, depends where I'm going. I recently have been using my roof rack with skii attachments and just putting my 1 piece rods ontop. looks so coollllll. LOL Quote
Last_Cast Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 That can be a problem, ceiling fans are the worst menace ever invented to destroy a fishing rod. well other than a careless partner. Car doors are fun too. Went to Bass Pro, about a 3 hour drive, I've never been and REALLY wanted to. After over paying for a rod, one of the cashiers offered a warranty just incase it breaks. Of course I said no, im careful I'll be fine.! Which he then replied with "okay but if you break the rod with your car door or something dont come back crying". SO after my long trip back home, Guess who snapped the rod???....with the car door...kid jynxed me. Quote
gailt Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 Car doors are fun too. Went to Bass Pro, about a 3 hour drive, I've never been and REALLY wanted to. After over paying for a rod, one of the cashiers offered a warranty just incase it breaks. Of course I said no, im careful I'll be fine.! Which he then replied with "okay but if you break the rod with your car door or something dont come back crying". SO after my long trip back home, Guess who snapped the rod???....with the car door...kid jynxed me. I remember several years ago my brother had to have the latest graphite rod paid over $300 for it.To make a long story short he put it in the trunk of his friends car,and got it squaared away,but they forgot to put ice in the cooler so they stopped and filled their cooler,but unfortunately the rod tip was left sticking out,ruined the whole trip for my brother. Quote
Last_Cast Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 I remember several years ago my brother had to have the latest graphite rod paid over $300 for it.To make a long story short he put it in the trunk of his friends car,and got it squaared away,but they forgot to put ice in the cooler so they stopped and filled their cooler,but unfortunately the rod tip was left sticking out,ruined the whole trip for my brother. nothing worse man.. now i double check everytime. Quote
Super User Raul Posted July 17, 2015 Super User Posted July 17, 2015 Please stop saying 1 piece rods are more sensitive, as in everything in this hobby, a one piece pos rod is not going to be "more sensitive" than a good quality 2+ piece rod. When you make a comparison between a multi piece ( being the most common 2 pieces ) rod you really have to make it against it´s similar in one piece, so far, in my experience the difference is from negligible to down right non existent 2 piece vs 1 piece. Quote
Last_Cast Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 Please stop saying 1 piece rods are more sensitive, as in everything in this hobby, a one piece pos rod is not going to be "more sensitive" than a good quality 2+ piece rod. When you make a comparison between a multi piece ( being the most common 2 pieces ) rod you really have to make it against it´s similar in one piece, so far, in my experience the difference is from negligible to down right non existent 2 piece vs 1 piece. Valid point, cant speak for anyone else, but I was comparing the same exact rods that come in 1 or 2 piece.. Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted July 17, 2015 Super User Posted July 17, 2015 These aren't your grandfather's 2pc rods. The ferrules aren't chrome plated brass anymore. There is a lot of engineering that goes in the design of a 2pc rod to ensure it will perform like the similar 1pc model. The only difference I've noticed between 1pc and 2pc blanks of the same action/power is the 2pc is a touch more powerful. I attribute that to the extra material in the ferrule. 2 Quote
Last_Cast Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 These aren't your grandfather's 2pc rods. The ferrules aren't chrome plated brass anymore. There is a lot of engineering that goes in the design of a 2pc rod to ensure it will perform like the similar 1pc model. The only difference I've noticed between 1pc and 2pc blanks of the same action/power is the 2pc is a touch more powerful. I attribute that to the extra material in the ferrule. depends on how much cash you throw down lol Quote
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