Disapointing Line Break

[Green Trout]

I was fishing today, and I set the hook and right after I set the hook, my 15lb SpiderWire UltraCast Flurocarbon broke. I swing as hard as I can to try to punch the hook through that bass, but when the line breaks, it is heart-breaking. My question is, can I go up to a heavier Flurocarbon without having memory issues? I was hoping to get away with 15lb, but breaking off one time for me is one time too many. I need to be able to trust my fishing line. I am fishing a Texas Rig Worm on MH rod by the way.

[ChrisWi]

Buy some decent line

[Angry John]

One time is not enough to prove it was anything.  Did you have a bad knot, and now your going to tie a thousand knots to make sure you get it perfect every time.  For all the effort get some YHB in 15lb and call it a day.  Its tough as nails and cheap.  I have to cut this line and not with my teeth because even that hurts.

[Steveo-1969]

Man, that's a bummer.  I hate breaking off a fish on the hookset.  Based on the advice that members gave you a couple days ago on a thread you started about Spiderwire Fluoro, rather than switching to a heavier line you may want to try a different brand of fluorocarbon.  Spiderwire fluoro didn't get any love in the last thread.

 

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/159536-15lb-flurocarbon-with-texas-rig/

[smalljaw67]

Fluorocarbon is notorious for having break offs because knots will sometimes cause a kink and when fluorocarbon gets a kink it is a weak spot. Now, most who have used it for any amount of time know which knot works best but I can't tell you how many videos I saw talking bout which knot to use with it or how to tie certain knots with it so you don't encounter a break off. The one that gets singled out the most is the palomar knot, if you are using that knot I'll bet you kinked the line as a lot of pros advise against that knot because it is so easy to kink the line while tying it.

[Thornback]

Are you sure it was a bass? You get hit by a mudfish or pickerel and they will cut your line with their teeth. I have had that happen on #40 braided.

[flyfisher]

i know when i set the hook and it pops i feel pressure before it breaks.  When pickerel do it, it just slices through and i usually don't feel the resistance.

 

other than that, i wouldn't call it a pattern of breakage yet but you can always try heavier line and see if it works or go to braid.

[deep]

That line is no good. You need to be fishing 15# SpWire FC.

 

 

I think it's just the knot, though.

[rippin-lips]

Gotta be sure to use a Mustad hook. I mean KVD uses them. They have to be good,right?

[HoosierHawgs]

Gotta be sure to use a Mustad hook. I mean KVD uses them. They have to be good,right?

I caught this HAWG (2# bass) with a Yamamato Hula Grub on a Gamakatsu jig on my Carbonlite rod and reel while on my Nitro boat with a Motor Guide telling motor and dual Power Poles towed by my Silverado.

-Roland

[einscodek]

Its not just the knot .. its just fluorocarbon.. my 25# tatsu breaks off on hooksets as well occaisionally and the remnants never indicate a knot problem.. breaks upstream of knot.

[iabass8]

Its not just the knot .. its just fluorocarbon.. my 25# tatsu breaks off on hooksets as well occaisionally and the remnants never indicate a knot problem.. breaks upstream of knot.

You've mentioned this twice now from what I've seen. Your issue is either a bad spool or you are tying a bad knot. It's not Tatsu. Lots and lots of people use tatsu, myself included, with zero issues.

[Thornback]

One method I have used is tie on a hook or lure and clamp it in a vice. Then take the line and wrap it around a hammer handle or a screwdriver handle many times, then start pulling. When it breaks you can examine the knot and the line to determine which let loose. You can also do this with a scale to check the pound strength before the line parts.

[Jon G]

My guess is knot and maybe the line in general. What knot were you tying? If it was the palomar that is the problem their. Try a San Diego Jam that is my favorite knot and it has not failed me once.

 

Also Spiderwire isn't a very good fluorocarbon. With fluorocarbon you get what you pay for. I would get a line that has a lot better reviews such as Seaguar and Sunline. My personal favorite is Sunline FC Sniper.

 

My rule of thumb for fishing is to never skimp on two things. Hooks and line. At the end of the day those two things are what truly land the fish IMO  

[jonnyblazex]

  I use the palomar knot 100 percent of the time with braid, mono, and fluoro.  Havent had any problems with knot failure knock on wood.  Its all about how careful you are about tying the knot, and getting it tightened evenly before the final torque down.  With fluoro this is especially important.   

[Angry John]

I am guilty of only using the palomar knot and it has been mostly good to me.  Its fast and easy to tie.  The only other thing it do is snell.

[Shanes7614]

I was fishing today, and I set the hook and right after I set the hook, my 15lb SpiderWire UltraCast Flurocarbon broke. I swing as hard as I can to try to punch the hook through that bass, but when the line breaks, it is heart-breaking. My question is, can I go up to a heavier Flurocarbon without having memory issues? I was hoping to get away with 15lb, but breaking off one time for me is one time too many. I need to be able to trust my fishing line. I am fishing a Texas Rig Worm on MH rod by the way.

Check your rod guides also. Use a Qtip and run along the inside of each one. That may be your problem. You may also need to think about user error and your actual hook set being too much. Plenty of guys use 4 and 6# test and are able to set hooks without line breakage. If you use sharp hooks you shouldn't have to "swing for the fences" hook set everything. A quick snap is plenty to get sharp hooks even through bone.