OneShotOneKill Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 On a baitrunner i would say 30lb braid to either maxima mono or seaguar or xps flouro Quote
Shanes7614 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 I'm and looking for a good mono fishing line and want to know which line you think is best. My choices so far are Mccoy Mean Green or Mason Bass On or T-line . I was also considering Silver Thread AN40, and another line that I've never seen before that's available is Mason Walleye Premium Coplymer (for bass too) - if you heard about or used these lines and could compare this to the rest mentioned I would appreciate your response. Thanks in advance. I want to put 17 lb on my Shimano Baitfeeder 4500B and 8 lb (or 6 lb -which would you recommend?) on my lighter Okuma Avenger ABF-30b, both are spinning reels with the baitfeeder option so the fish can take off with the line until you set the hook. Mason Walleye Premium only goes up to 15 lb test.I mostly river fish but also fish in lakes and ponds often. I would bottom fish with the larger reel and jig, lure, bottom, bobber fish with the smaller reel.Real Considerations:1. Knot strength2. Casting Ability3. Abrasion Resistance/Durability4. Hard to see under water5. Limp - low or no memory Not sure how much you've used these reels as I also have both as well but use more for saltwater applications. The bait feeder options do NOT work from hook setting motion. They click back into gear when the handles are turned. If your plan to use the 4500 for bass fishing I would seriously reconsider unless your 6'6" and 300lbs. It's a pretty heavy reel to try to work any type of baits with. The okuma is more towards the size I MAY consider for bass for your jigging applications and such. Still a little on the heavy side to use all day. I would consider using braid to save some piece of mind as both tend to allow line to loosen up with straight mono on them. The only way you can and will prevent it is to have a constant pressure on your line. They are great reels for bait fishing for larger species of fish but aren't best suited for strictly bass fishing and especially for moving type baits that need to be constantly caster and retrieved. Just my opinion but as I said before I do own both and love them both but you'd be better suited for bass fishing with a couple different reels then those. Quote
Shanes7614 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 I'm a fan of Big Game but a couple of years ago trilene xl was reformulated and it is my favorite. It is limp and strong . I've been throwing lighter weight lures longer distances and havent had a catastrophic line failure yet . I have caught quite a few 6 and 7 lb bass with it .I've been fishiing 12 lb test mostly . I believe that limp lines are "sometimes" stronger than stiff lines and heavier test lines. How can 12 lb test be stronger than say 15 ? It seems to me , that a small diameter limp line will have less stress on the knot on a thin wire hook. A larger diameter will weaken because of the extreme bend placed on it . I have not tested that idea . I could be wrong but it makes sense to me . Wouldn't this theory depend on which knots your using? Quote
Super User scaleface Posted July 7, 2015 Super User Posted July 7, 2015 Wouldn't this theory depend on which knots your using? Dont know why. A kink will be the weakest part of an otherwise undamaged line , so the smaller the hook diameter the more a line is kinked . Quote
Shanes7614 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Dont know why. A kink will be the weakest part of an otherwise undamaged line , so the smaller the hook diameter the more a line is kinked . The eye of your hooks aren't square are they? What would cause the kink on your hook? Your knot... Quote
Shanes7614 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 I don't know or use a ton of different knots myself but check out knot wars on YouTube. Will explain a lot of where these kinks as you say are coming from. Quote
Super User scaleface Posted July 7, 2015 Super User Posted July 7, 2015 The The eye of your hooks aren't square are they? What would cause the kink on your hook? Your knot... Being square has nothing to do with iit .Think about it . You dont think a line can be bent to the point where it is weakened ? Obviously there comes a point where hook diameter is to small for a certain line diameter . We can agree on that . There is an article about this in one of my fishing magazines probably InFisherman . Makes sense . Quote
Shanes7614 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 I've tied 80 flouro and hooks the same size typical to bass fishing and never had any issues. I think you would run into the fact it won't fit through the eye itself before you should have these kinking issues. It can definitely be bent and be weakened but using the correct knots normally prevents this. Quote
Super User scaleface Posted July 7, 2015 Super User Posted July 7, 2015 I've tied 80 flouro and hooks the same size typical to bass fishing and never had any issues. I think you would run into the fact it won't fit through the eye itself before you should have these kinking issues. It can definitely be bent and be weakened but using the correct knots normally prevents this. Thisnexplains it better .http://knotcyphers.pbworks.com/w/page/8216878/Knot%20Strength%20-%20or%20Weakness Quote
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