Super User Redlinerobert Posted July 1, 2015 Super User Posted July 1, 2015 To the entire world other than Americans. 1 Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted July 1, 2015 Super User Posted July 1, 2015 Metric system doesn't totally suck. In fact, if had originated anywhere other than France, we'd probably go ahead and get on board. 2 Quote
LuckyGia Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 They told me in grade school back in 1960 - 70's that only the metric system would be used. Also that there would be no need for any paper. At the time I hated learning it. But being a loyal Toyota owner, I have become used to it 1 Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted July 2, 2015 Super User Posted July 2, 2015 Nothing arbitrary about the metric system? What logic did they use to determine the length of a meter? As for the temperature thing, the Celsius system is just as arbitrary as the Fahrenheit system for temps, though maybe just a bit neater. Celsius decided that water freezes at zero degrees and boils at one hundred degrees. Any measurement of temperature is a measure of heat. Heat is present at zero degrees Celsius or temps below zero would not be possible. Let zero represent absolute zero where there is the total absence of heat, and go from there. But even then what constitutes a degree would still be arbitrary. Speaking of time, there are sixty seconds in a minute, sixty minutes in an hour, and twenty four hours in a day. A day is not precisely twenty four hours long. That's why we have "leap year" to reset the clocks. About those 24 hour days, why do we have a.m. and p.m. to roughly designate the daylight and night time hours. Why not just use military or science "time" where ten p.m. is called 2200 hours, etc? edit: What about time zones? Now, for the stacking of the date to form a pyramid, that makes a bit more sense, but not because it forms a pretty pyramid, but because in the sequence of the date numbers, the one we are most likely to know is the year, with the month not far behind. The day is another matter. I have no problem remembering the month or year, but the day number is an entirely different matter. It's not a matter of forgetfulness. It's just that most retired folks' lives aren't governed by the time and date to the same degree as those who work and deal with those numbers on a daily basis. Considering dates. Who determined which months have thirty days and which have thirty-one days except for February which has 28, except for every fourth year when it has 29? Why not create a logical, sensible, system which measures days months and years in such a way that we do not need a leap year to "adjust" the system? Don't get me started on the idiosyncracies of languages. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 2, 2015 Super User Posted July 2, 2015 Interesting ~ I think I'd like the Metric system, especially for weighing my bass. Because then my PB goes to 5187.9 grams That just seems much more impressive. A-Jay 3 Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted July 2, 2015 Super User Posted July 2, 2015 Interesting ~ I think I'd like the Metric system, especially for weighing my bass. Because then my PB goes to 5187.9 grams That just seems much more impressive. A-Jay I think most digital scales will read in lbs, or kg. In which case, your 5187.9 gram fish would show up as 5.1879 kg. Rounded off it would be 5.2 kg. Are you certain you want to switch to metric for weighing your fish? I didn't realize that my digital scale read either or. The first fish I weighed was not close to what I guessed it would weigh. Took a close look at the readout and saw it was in KG. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 2, 2015 Super User Posted July 2, 2015 I think most digital scales will read in lbs, or kg. In which case, your 5187.9 gram fish would show up as 5.1879 kg. Rounded off it would be 5.2 kg. Are you certain you want to switch to metric for weighing your fish? I didn't realize that my digital scale read either or. The first fish I weighed was not close to what I guessed it would weigh. Took a close look at the readout and saw it was in KG. I'm sticking with grams . . . . A-Jay Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted July 2, 2015 Super User Posted July 2, 2015 sometimes my scale puts itself into KG mode and my heart jumps for a second!!! then i realize it's KG and my weight goes down by over half.... Quote
mrmacwvu1 Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 When I was younger My grandmother had a car where the speedometer was digital. I used to sneak in there and change it to metric. It was hillarious when everyone would be honking at her and she would say "people need to slow down I am doing the speed limmit." 4 Quote
Super User gardnerjigman Posted July 2, 2015 Super User Posted July 2, 2015 When I was younger My grandmother had a car where the speedometer was digital. I used to sneak in there and change it to metric. It was hillarious when everyone would be honking at her and she would say "people need to slow down I am doing the speed limmit." That's pretty good Quote
Al Wolbach Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 Metric hand tools in mm are much easier to use than SAE fractions.......Al 2 Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted July 2, 2015 Super User Posted July 2, 2015 Metric hand tools in mm are much easier to use than SAE fractions.......Al I have and have used both. I find no difference in the ease of use. For me, a 1/2" combination wrench on a half inch bolt/nut works the same as a 15mm combo wrench on a 15mm bolt/nut. It's nice to have both. If you have a rusted metric nut or bolt that cannot be gripped tightly by a metric wrench, I've found that a SAE wrench will often do the job. The converse is also true. Quote
Super User gardnerjigman Posted July 2, 2015 Super User Posted July 2, 2015 I have and have used both. I find no difference in the ease of use. For me, a 1/2" combination wrench on a half inch bolt/nut works the same as a 15mm combo wrench on a 15mm bolt/nut. It's nice to have both. If you have a rusted metric nut or bolt that cannot be gripped tightly by a metric wrench, I've found that a SAE wrench will often do the job. The converse is also true. I agree with this. Saved my butt more times than I can count. Still somewhat annoying when you have both metric and sae on the same freaking piece of equipment. 1 Quote
Al Wolbach Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 I have and have used both. I find no difference in the ease of use. For me, a 1/2" combination wrench on a half inch bolt/nut works the same as a 15mm combo wrench on a 15mm bolt/nut. It's nice to have both. If you have a rusted metric nut or bolt that cannot be gripped tightly by a metric wrench, I've found that a SAE wrench will often do the job. The converse is also true. Of course they are used the same way. When you are not sure of the size is when the metric shine. If a 15mm is to small and a 17 to large it must be 16mm. In SAE you are figuring with the fractions trying find the proper wrench. I also have both in numerous type wrench sets. Quote
Turtle135 Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 I was told when I joined this forum that there would be no math. 5 Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted July 2, 2015 Super User Posted July 2, 2015 I was told when I joined this forum that there would be no math. Who told you that? Must have been part of your initiation. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted July 2, 2015 Super User Posted July 2, 2015 Of course they are used the same way. When you are not sure of the size is when the metric shine. If a 15mm is to small and a 17 to large it must be 16mm. In SAE you are figuring with the fractions trying find the proper wrench. I also have both in numerous type wrench sets. Jig head weights must drive you crazy. 1/16th ounce, 3/32nd ounce, 1/8th ounce, etc. And hooks. A 2/0 hook is larger than a 1/0, but a #1 hook is larger than a #2. I hear where you're coming from. Back in the day when I started turning wrenches just because I like taking things apart to see what made them tick, I don't recall anything being metric. I could look at a bolt or nut and tell if it was 5/8, 11/16 or 3/4. Then you'd get into the ignition sets where they were in 1/32 inch increments. Since when has the human race been accused of being logical? "We drive on parkways, and park on driveways. Ships carry cargo, trucks carry shipments." Gallagher Let's not talk about drill sizes. Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted July 2, 2015 Super User Posted July 2, 2015 sometimes my scale puts itself into KG mode and my heart jumps for a second!!! then i realize it's KG and my weight goes down by over half....I thought KG were more than a lb. So it would be less? 1 Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted July 2, 2015 Super User Posted July 2, 2015 I thought KG were more than a lb. So it would be less? Think about it for a minute.... There's 2.2 lb in a kg. say I catch a fish that reads 4.4 I'm stoked! Then realize the 4.4 was kg so really it's a 2 lber... (Probably still stoked) Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted July 2, 2015 Super User Posted July 2, 2015 I think it's the other way around. In kg, this bass showed up as 3.89 kg. 1 Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted July 2, 2015 Super User Posted July 2, 2015 Think about it for a minute.... There's 2.2 lb in a kg. say I catch a fish that reads 4.4 I'm stoked! Then realize the 4.4 was kg so really it's a 2 lber... (Probably still stoked)By that logic, that fish would way 9.86 lbs. 1 Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted July 3, 2015 Super User Posted July 3, 2015 By that logic, that fish would way 9.86 lbs. Totally right. Glad I'm not in school anymore!! Quote
Catch 22 Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 When I was younger My grandmother had a car where the speedometer was digital. I used to sneak in there and change it to metric. It was hillarious when everyone would be honking at her and she would say "people need to slow down I am doing the speed limmit." Ha ha lmao I used to do the same thing with my own kids in the car. They would get home and tell mom we were doing 85 and I would get the evil eye. C22 Quote
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