Daiwas Are Confusing

[deep]

I search for Daiwa Alphas (is that the plural of Alpha?), and I find

 

1. alphas 150h

2. alphas r-edition 103

3. alphas finesse custom 105

4. alphas type r

5. alphas 103 type f

 

and probably more variations.

 

Could someone help me wrap my head around the sub-types of a particular reel.

 

This is a serious question. I'd actually like to try a Daiwa someday.

 

Thanks,

[new2BC4bass]

1. http://www.japantackle.com/Daiwa/Daiwa_Alphas_150H.htm

2.

3. http://www.tackletour.com/reviewdaiwaalphasfinesse.html

4. http://forums.tackletour.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=42587

5. http://www.plat.co.jp/english/bass/daiwa/ALPHAS-F/alphas-f.htm

 

The Alphas format is great.  You can't lose with any model.  I got into the game late so don't know nearly as much about the reels as I'd like or should know.  I do know a 103 spool holds more line and is considered more an all-around reel while the 105 spool holds less line and is more for finesse type fishing....not that it can't do very well with heavier baits, but heavier line capacity is limited.  Any R type reel is going to be tuned a bit more for high performance.

 

You should start out with the new Alphas SV as everyone is commenting on what an easy reel it is to use.  Will be ordering one shortly.  I have a supertuned and upgraded F including 6.8 gears.  Fantastic little reel.  Love the Purple Alphas 103L ( L for LH ).  Have 2 and want to get at least one tuned like the F.  Great casting reels.  I use 8# mono on the 2 103L while the F came with 30# 832 Ghost braid.  Used it this year in Florida.  Very forgiving reel.  Some slight over-runs due to restricted casting strokes, but a few pulls on the line, and the loose coils were all removed.

[*Hootie]

That's why they make Shimanos....lol.....just kidding.

 

Hootie

[deep]

I'll see what I can find out about the Alphas SV. Seems a little too rich for my blood though. Maybe I can convince myself otherwise.

 

 

That's why they make Shimanos....lol.....just kidding.

 

Hootie

 

We know, right?

[kickerfish1]

The Alphas SV can be bought and shipped for about $200, maybe a bit less. Frankly this maybe the best performing and user friendly Alphas of all. Unless you need a certain color scheme of more bling the Alphas SV would be your best bet.

Here is a custom painted and tuned Alphas 103, the once "purple" colored model. It can be finicky with Flourocarbon at times especially into a head wind.

[Raul]

To avoid any confusion with the Alphas you need to have several  , one of each is a good place to start, so far I have:

 

Alphas Itö

Alphas Type F 

Alphas R edition

Zonda 68 ( technically speaking it´s not an Alpha but a Megabass )

 

However this time I´m going to pass on the SV. I have the SS SV ( deep spool ) and purchased a couple of deep SV spools for my TDZs so I guess I´m pretty much covered in the SV department, besides if I want to go to a shallow spool and very light line I have 2 2005 Airy Red Pixies.

[masterbass]

My buddy has an alphas ito.  I'm not sure if it's just his reel, but I watch him cast and he struggles to get any distance throwing the same stuff I'm throwing with my sv.  He backlashes a lot too while I just make cast after cast.  I'd say the sv is the worth it over the other variants. 

[new2BC4bass]

My buddy has an alphas ito.  I'm not sure if it's just his reel, but I watch him cast and he struggles to get any distance throwing the same stuff I'm throwing with my sv.  He backlashes a lot too while I just make cast after cast.  I'd say the sv is the worth it over the other variants. 

 

The Alphas ito was a collaboration between Daiwa and Megabass.  It doesn't say Type R on the reel, but I would consider it to be a fair representative of Type R tuning.

 

http://www.japantackle.com/Daiwa/Daiwa_Alphas_ito.htm

 

This type of tuning requires a better thumb...for me anyway.  I had trouble with my Alphas ito backlashing if I tried to go too light, but that was before I reached my current ability.  I never had problems with say a 3/8 oz. crankbait.  I haven't had it out in quite awhile.  Need to do so to see what I can do with it now.  I will say that my TD-Z 103HL Type R has never caused the problems I had with the ito, but then I never tried light lures with it.

[travis23]

Can't speak on the earlier Alphas, but the SV is a for sure. You can get them for less than $200 any day. I put some bocas in and I love it. Great casting abilities!

[John G]

If you are coming from Shimano, you might be disappointed in the Alphas. I bought a Megabass Zonda 68 a few weeks ago from the Megabass Outlet Store and I was underwhelmed by it. I never did use it and while it palmed great and was light enough, it was not as smooth as any low profile Shimano that I have and it certainly wasn't as smooth as my Conquest 50's and it did not have a clicking drag star. My low profile Shimano's that are smoother than a brand new Megabass Zonda 68 are Curado 50E, XT1000's, Aldebaran Mg7's and a Curado 200HG. I have since sold it to a member over at TT.

[Jon G]

So whats the difference between a regular spool and SV? Is the SV just a shallow spool? Are the Daiwas marked SV just 50 sized reels? Pardon my "basic" questions I'm a Shimano guy lol.

[kickerfish1]

Wow, that is crazy John G. I have the 6.8:1 years from the pixy type r in mine and it is scary smooth. Palming, retrive quality, and light bait casting is the only reasons I have mine still plus it just looks cool. I just don't care for the somewhat finicky nature of the reel with flourocarbon. It handles better with braid but I just don't like trying to break off snags even with a leader. Would love to get an SV spool for it and see where that gets me.

Member Tim S is a huge Alphas fan. If he doesnt see this maybe send him a PM. He has a great knowledge base of the Alphas and each of the models. He is also a huge fan of the SV as well.

[rippin-lips]

Someone has been day drinking.

[John G]

Someone has been day drinking.

 

The truth hurts! LOL

[rippin-lips]

That you're drunk on a Sunday...

[John G]

Someone has been day drinking.

I will add my Antares AR to the list as well. DVT has it right now and it was smoother than the Zonda 68 BEFORE I sent it off to be serviced.

 

I think the Alphas (Zonda 68) is a nice reel. I even thought about keeping it just because it was a Megabass and I was interested in using it for BFS purposes but it was not meant to be because other than it being a Megabass, it did not excite me at all.

[John G]

That you're drunk on a Sunday...

I wouldn't mind having a few but I have to go to work in a few hours. Just so there is no doubt, I sold it to spookybaits over at TT.

[deep]

Now TT has a new review on an "SS SV"? What on earth is that?

 

The gist I got so far is the Alphas SV is a reel I might want to try.

 

Oh btw, I just bought another Curado I for under $100.

 

How much better is this Alphas SV compared to the Curado I (mostly curious about casting, especially lighter baits)?

[kickerfish1]

I would without hesitation skip the SS SV reel. I think your Alphas SV would excel for lighter baits over the Curado I. Plus it would be very tame yet very performance driven in any type of wind conditions. If you buy an Alphas SV it would be worth the gamble. Even very lightly used you could still fetch $180+

[21farms]

let me see if i can help. the alphas is daiwa's midsize JDM reel . the original alphas was purple and came out in 2004 (the USDM version was released in 2005, was painted oranged and renamed the 'sol'). subsequent alphas were only tweaked a little bit here and there with changes to the paint color, types and number of ball bearings, gear ratios, the handle and/or knobs, and the type and size of the spool. in daiwa-speak, the number in the model name correspond to the spool depth where 100 is standard size, 103 is mid-size, and 105 is shallow (best for finesse). the alphas 150H is a total outlier though because it's not really an alphas but a larger reel on a different platform.

[bootytrain]

Daiwa will come out with a reel, then release different iterations of it year after year. You almost need a stack of their catalogs to keep up with it.

[Raul]

Well the Alphas has:

 

Alphas 103/103 purple ( 5.8 GR )

Alphas Itö ( 5.8 GR )

Alphas Type F ( 5.8 GR ) 

Alphas R Edition ( 5.8 GR )

Alphas Finesse Custom ( 6.8 GR )

Alphas SV ( 5.8 & 7.2 GR )

 

Not Alphas but built on the same platform and technically speaking Megabass brand

 

Zonda ( 5.8 GR )

Zonda 68 ( 6.8 GR )

Zonda 68 Rosso ( 6.8 GR )

Zonda 68 Hedgehog Studios ( 6.8 GR )

 

The domestic
 

Sol ( 5.8 GR )

 

And a reel that has nothing to do with the platform

 

Alphas 150