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Cast, reel, repeat...simple

You forgot getting it from the spool to the reel lol

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Every time I fish very long with braid I ask myself a similar question, "Why would anyone use this stuff when quality fluorocarbon, copolymer, and mono lines are available?" To each his own...

Agreed. I hate using braid.

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Every time I fish very long with braid I ask myself a similar question, "Why would anyone use this stuff when quality fluorocarbon, copolymer, and mono lines are available?" To each his own...

 

I tried braid years ago on BC equipment and didn't care for it because it casts light lures easier due to the thinner diameter while enjoying the benefits of a higher pound test line. It's extremely abrasion resistant, doesn't seem to twist and has virtually zero stretch. I know I've lost fewer fish because of it. But, as you say, to each his own.

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I tried braid years ago on BC equipment and didn't care for it because it casts light lures easier due to the thinner diameter while enjoying the benefits of a higher pound test line. It's extremely abrasion resistant, doesn't seem to twist and has virtually zero stretch. I know I've lost fewer fish because of it. But, as you say, to each his own.

"Extremely abrasion resistant." Hmmm....
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I tried braid years ago on BC equipment and didn't care for it because it casts light lures easier due to the thinner diameter while enjoying the benefits of a higher pound test line. It's extremely abrasion resistant, doesn't seem to twist and has virtually zero stretch. I know I've lost fewer fish because of it. But, as you say, to each his own.

Ever fished a t-rig on a rocky bottom with braid? Extremely abrasion resistant?

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Abrasion is the biggest issue with braid. It frays when used in rocky environments.

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Any time y'all have a fish come unbuttoned or miss one on the hook set ya always have to blame the tackle!

It can never be operator error! ;)

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Ever fished a t-rig on a rocky bottom with braid? Extremely abrasion resistant?

Ouch! Where I fish is mostly weed-choked so I have not noticed abrasion. But have you guys tried Fireline? I've been using the same 17# line all this season. I only cut off a couple inches when i tie on another lure. It hasn't broken once and I've landed some good fish. The one failure with it was a snap that straightened out. I can tell you it's more resistant than 17# Vanish floro from my experience. 

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Remember that fluorocarbon has more stretch than braid or even mono and that's why its like setting the hook with a rubber band.  I'd recommend a main line of Yo-Zuri Hybrid, which is not only low stretch but highly abrasion resistant and as good as any line with zebra mussels present.  If you prefer a line with a sink rate try a main line of Sniper, still stretches more than mono or co-poly but less than other fluorocarbon lines.

Wait......FC has more stretch than Mono?   What? 

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Any time y'all have a fish come unbuttoned or miss one on the hook set ya always have to blame the tackle!

It can never be operator error! ;)

That is why I always use cheap, worn out line and equipment.  When I outfish everybody, it can't be the tackle it must be my great fishing skills.  When I get skunked, it is always because of the sub-standard tackle.  Which I am forced to use because the wife wants the money to go to more "home-improvement" purchases.

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Speaking on braids "abrasion resistance" I use it around bridge pilings and have had fish wrap me around them and never broke off. Most times it doesn't even fray on me . Could just be luck. I feel the 8 strand braids are pretty abrasion resistant, bit not so much the 4 strand braids. To each their own.

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But have you guys tried Fireline? I've been using the same 17# line all this season. I only cut off a couple inches when i tie on another lure. 

 

But what color is your Fireline now? 

 

I haven't used fireline in probably 12+ years, but it always went from "Smoke" to snow white after the first outing. 

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Got to love the "whoever doesn't use what I use is wrong" post.

 

If it works for you great, does not mean everyone will like it.

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But what color is your Fireline now? 

 

I haven't used fireline in probably 12+ years, but it always went from "Smoke" to snow white after the first outing. 

It's still black, but a little faded looking.

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But what color is your Fireline now? 

 

I haven't used fireline in probably 12+ years, but it always went from "Smoke" to snow white after the first outing. 

Still black, but faded a bit.

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Different strokes for different folks and before Hootie answers me.....(that's what she said)

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I tried braid years ago on BC equipment and didn't care for it because it casts light lures easier due to the thinner diameter while enjoying the benefits of a higher pound test line. It's extremely abrasion resistant, doesn't seem to twist and has virtually zero stretch. I know I've lost fewer fish because of it. But, as you say, to each his own.

What? You tried braid years ago and didn't care for it because "it casts light lures easier due to the thinner diameter while enjoying the benefits of a higher pound test line. It's extremely abrasion resistant, doesn't seem to twist and has virtually zero stretch'. Am I missing something here?  :Idontknow: 

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What? You tried braid years ago and didn't care for it because "it casts light lures easier due to the thinner diameter while enjoying the benefits of a higher pound test line. It's extremely abrasion resistant, doesn't seem to twist and has virtually zero stretch'. Am I missing something here?  :Idontknow: 

 I accidentally cut out the middle of my post. I didn't like it on BC tackle because it always dug into the spool whenever I tightened up the line. And I couldn't break it. Had to cut it off sometimes way short because I was fishing deeper in a lake. Now I usually fish shallow enough to go get a lure that's hung up.

 

Part of the original post that I cutout was praising the virtues of Fireline vs plain braid. But I just bought some PowerPro to use for frogs, t-rigs and jigs. It looks a lot better than the old stuff I didn't like.

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Fireline is not braid. It is fused. Thinner Fireline digs way to much for me. Stiff, wirey, and rough compared to a good 8 carrier braid. Braid is worthless if you can not eliminate all slack. Just comes down to the right tool for the task at hand imo.

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Ive caught most of my fish on berkley big game. But i also use flouro and braid. Big game is my all time favorite. I guess different thing work for different people

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The idea mono line stretches like a rubber band is false. Every line, including braid, will reach it's yield strength and elongate or stretch some percentage until it breaks. If the material has high memory strength, like spring steel or is elastic like rubber, it may elongate and return to its original length.

If you are using 6 lb mono or FC line and apply 50% of the tensile strength or 3 lbs, the line will yield and begin to stretch, however your drag should be set at 1/3 the line strength or 2 lbs using 6 lb line. Setting drags at 50% line strength is risky.

The braid being 15 lb test for example has much higher tensile properties than nylon or FC and may not start to yield until it reaches 75% of it's tensile strength or 10 lbs for example, the leader will break long before the stronger braid reaches it's yield strength

I set my bait casting and spinning reels at 1/3rd the FC or mono line strength and rarely loose bass because of getting good hook sets and controlling the bass.

Tom

The braid being 15 lb test for example has much higher tensile properties than nylon or FC and may not start to yield until it reaches 75% of it's tensile strength or 10 lbs for example, the leader will break long before the stronger braid reaches it's yield strength

Wouldn't 75% of 15lb test be closer to 11.25lbs? Setting drag at 10lbs would be 66%. How often are you using a scale to measure your drag? You would need to use a scale multiple times throughout the day to check due to mechanical changes your reel goes through during each outing due to temperature changes, drag material compression and swelling etc... Mono from what I have read can stretch up to 40%. Flouro about 25% and braid less then 5%.

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