Super User S Hovanec Posted June 25, 2015 Super User Posted June 25, 2015 .....and straight floro? I've been using braid and floro leader for a long time. Yesterday, my leader got too chewed up by zebra mussels and I didn't feel like retying, so I grabbed my spybait rod with 6# floro on it. I tied on a dropshot and proceeded to fish. Every time I hooked up, it felt like I was using a rubber band as line. Of the 7 hookups I had on it, 3 came unbuttoned half way to the boat and one right at the boat. I've never had that problem with braid. I did manage to keep a 4#er buttoned up long enough to get it in the boat. 5 Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted June 25, 2015 Super User Posted June 25, 2015 I don't believe it's ever been done before. Hootie 11 Quote
Turtle135 Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Nice smallie! I believe using mono or flouro or braid is something of an acquired skill. If you fish with mono like I do 95% of the time you develop a feel for how to keep those fish buttoned up (the right hook set, the right amount of tension). Each line has it's own strengths and weaknesses. Each shines in the correct environment (cover, water clarity, etc) and presentation type. 2 Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted June 25, 2015 Author Super User Posted June 25, 2015 I don't believe it's ever been done before. Hootie I can't believe I used to do it that way too. It only took me 6 years to lose my mono fishing skills. 1 Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted June 25, 2015 Super User Posted June 25, 2015 Remember that fluorocarbon has more stretch than braid or even mono and that's why its like setting the hook with a rubber band. I'd recommend a main line of Yo-Zuri Hybrid, which is not only low stretch but highly abrasion resistant and as good as any line with zebra mussels present. If you prefer a line with a sink rate try a main line of Sniper, still stretches more than mono or co-poly but less than other fluorocarbon lines. Quote
Super User Catt Posted June 25, 2015 Super User Posted June 25, 2015 ROFLMAO I've 30 bass over 10 lbs across 5 states in some gnarliest cover ever, every one was caught on Berkley Big Game 15# test. 13 Quote
Tim Kelly Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 You have to amke adjustments to fish properly with any type of line. Going from braid to mono is a big adjustment, but once you've made it they both catch fish and both have advantages. Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted June 25, 2015 Author Super User Posted June 25, 2015 I'm not looking for a new line, just making an observation as to how much of a difference there is. I was just too lazy to retie my leader and the floro rod was strung up in the locker. I can't see me using anything other than braid except on my crank, jerkbait, topwater and spybait rods. Quote
Super User deep Posted June 25, 2015 Super User Posted June 25, 2015 Surely you're joking, Mr. .... Hovanec. Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted June 25, 2015 Author Super User Posted June 25, 2015 Joking about what? Quote
Super User deep Posted June 25, 2015 Super User Posted June 25, 2015 Joking about what? It's a reference to this book. http://www.amazon.com/Surely-Feynman-Adventures-Curious-Character/dp/0393316041 Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted June 25, 2015 Super User Posted June 25, 2015 I use mono on bigger, fast moving treble baits and topwaters. The mono I use is 15# Berkley Big Game. It's only on 2 baitcasters. I have 2 spin combos with Fireline and I just converted my T-rig, Pitching, Frog, etc. baitcasting combo to 50# PowerPro but I haven't used it yet. If I discover it needs a leader, I'll worry about that then. Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted June 25, 2015 Super User Posted June 25, 2015 Nice smallie! I believe using mono or flouro or braid is something of an acquired skill. If you fish with mono like I do 95% of the time you develop a feel for how to keep those fish buttoned up (the right hook set, the right amount of tension). Each line has it's own strengths and weaknesses. Each shines in the correct environment (cover, water clarity, etc) and presentation type. This. I have no problem keeping fish buttoned with Nylon line on 95% of my lures. Braid and fluorocarbon have their uses, and they fill specific niches for me. Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 25, 2015 Super User Posted June 25, 2015 The idea mono line stretches like a rubber band is false. Every line, including braid, will reach it's yield strength and elongate or stretch some percentage until it breaks. If the material has high memory strength, like spring steel or is elastic like rubber, it may elongate and return to its original length. If you are using 6 lb mono or FC line and apply 50% of the tensile strength or 3 lbs, the line will yield and begin to stretch, however your drag should be set at 1/3 the line strength or 2 lbs using 6 lb line. Setting drags at 50% line strength is risky. The braid being 15 lb test for example has much higher tensile properties than nylon or FC and may not start to yield until it reaches 75% of it's tensile strength or 10 lbs for example, the leader will break long before the stronger braid reaches it's yield strength I set my bait casting and spinning reels at 1/3rd the FC or mono line strength and rarely loose bass because of getting good hook sets and controlling the bass. Tom 2 Quote
Hogsticker Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 There is mono, and there is Sunline Defier. I prefer the latter. Everything else gets braid. Fluoro? I'm good. One rig spooled with it and it stresses me out every time I pick it up. Keeping the fish buttoned up has more to do with the rod than the line imo 1 Quote
Ozark_Basser Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I understand your situation. The slack line sensitivity is the only reason I use straight fluoro in deep water for bottom baits. Shallow water gets braid with a leader. Until they make a braid that sinks as fast as fluoro, I'll always use straight fluoro for deep water. 2 Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted June 25, 2015 Super User Posted June 25, 2015 I understand your situation. The slack line sensitivity is the only reason I use straight fluoro in deep water for bottom baits. Shallow water gets braid with a leader. Until they make a braid that sinks as fast as fluoro, I'll always use straight fluoro for deep water.Led core Quote
junyer357 Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Braid for me is only for spinning reels and frogs. Floro for jigs n worms and winter or deep cranks and mono for everything else. Quote
Super User Chris at Tech Posted June 25, 2015 Super User Posted June 25, 2015 .....and straight floro? I've been using braid and floro leader for a long time. Yesterday, my leader got too chewed up by zebra mussels and I didn't feel like retying, so I grabbed my spybait rod with 6# floro on it. I tied on a dropshot and proceeded to fish. Every time I hooked up, it felt like I was using a rubber band as line. Of the 7 hookups I had on it, 3 came unbuttoned half way to the boat and one right at the boat. I've never had that problem with braid. I did manage to keep a 4#er buttoned up long enough to get it in the boat. You're probably using a crappy rod 1 Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted June 25, 2015 Super User Posted June 25, 2015 That's crappie rod...lol. Hootie 1 Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted June 25, 2015 Super User Posted June 25, 2015 Every time I fish very long with braid I ask myself a similar question, "Why would anyone use this stuff when quality fluorocarbon, copolymer, and mono lines are available?" To each his own... 4 Quote
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