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Hey guys. Im new to frog fishing, I started last Friday fishing hollow body frogs. Currently im using a 6'6" medium heavy with a moderite tip. I was using a sebil pivot frog, I counted 23 blowups on my frog. I only hooked 2 fish can someone let me know why I am missing so any fish.

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2 things stand out. Your rod length and type of line used. Mono is very springy, especially when frogging. The rod length imo should be at least 7ft, for better leverage and castability.

If that's the only rod you have, then work with what you got. You can switch to 40lb braid, and your catch rate should improve. Good luck

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I want 23 blow ups.

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One thing to remember when top water fishin is to count to 3 before you set the hook. If they are missing your lure completely try slowing your retrieve.

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Im not sure how your retrieving it or if you have a high speed reel or not. You mite need to slow down your retrieve some and make sure your only doing short intermediate jerks.

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Don't set the hook until you feel the fish. If you set when you see the blow up, you'll miss most of the time.

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I can't agree with this wait until you feel the fish concept. IMO this is a recipe for missing large fish. If i can't see my frog I swing. The amount of time it takes to register that your frog is gone, is more than enough wait time. Big fish will spit that frog as soon as it does not feel real. This is a decent video on froggin by Ish. Pay close attention to the hook set at 11:30. 

 

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I can't agree with this wait until you feel the fish concept. IMO this is a recipe for missing large fish. If i can't see my frog I swing. The amount of time it takes to register that your frog is gone, is more than enough wait time. Big fish will spit that frog as soon as it does not feel real. This is a decent video on froggin by Ish. Pay close attention to the hook set at 11:30. 

 

 

I couldn't agree more. I don't count, wait to feel, etc. When my frog is gone, I swing. I can't think of any times that i've swung too soon. Most of the time the only misses are due to the fishing missing the bait all together. 

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I've lost count of the times I've had the frog come flying straight back at me from getting excited and setting too quick...duck!!!

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I can't agree with this wait until you feel the fish concept. IMO this is a recipe for missing large fish. If i can't see my frog I swing. The amount of time it takes to register that your frog is gone, is more than enough wait time. Big fish will spit that frog as soon as it does not feel real. This is a decent video on froggin by Ish. Pay close attention to the hook set at 11:30. 

Clearly if your frog is gone or you see your line swimming off, set the hook.   That's different than setting on a blow up where they might not have even touched your frog.

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I can't agree with this wait until you feel the fish concept. IMO this is a recipe for missing large fish. If i can't see my frog I swing. The amount of time it takes to register that your frog is gone, is more than enough wait time. Big fish will spit that frog as soon as it does not feel real. This is a decent video on froggin by Ish. Pay close attention to the hook set at 11:30. 

 

 

I think you're right, but I wonder if the problem in many cases instead is anticipation. It's not the disappearing of the frog that people are reacting to when they do a premature hookset; it's the appearance of any activity at all by the fish in the vacinity of the bait.

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I've heard recently that if you reel down and feel the fish after they take it, set it. If you don't feel it, wait for it to float up so you can start twitching and not waste the cast. Interstingly, Snag Proof, who makes Ish's signature frog, say to wait 2 seconds, FWIW. http://www.snagproof.com/pro-tips.html

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Don't wait. The time it takes for me to get my tip from down low (my preferred walking position) to the 12:00 hookset position is plenty of time. Too many times I've waited and lost my chance when they spit it. I find the quick rip while they're still in the engulfing/strike stage to be the best way as they haven't had the chance to spit it yet.

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I usually set right after the blow up. I don't wait to see if my frog is gone.

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If my frog is gone, I'm setting. When I started out frogging I tried the whole "Make sure you feel him first thing". There's only so many times I could watch my frog float back up just before I set the hook before I gave up on that game plan. If the bait is gone it's most likely because it's still in the fish's mouth. 

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