Nathan_Hardin1 Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 Hey guys. Im new to frog fishing, I started last Friday fishing hollow body frogs. Currently im using a 6'6" medium heavy with a moderite tip. I was using a sebil pivot frog, I counted 23 blowups on my frog. I only hooked 2 fish can someone let me know why I am missing so any fish. Quote
Nathan_Hardin1 Posted June 21, 2015 Author Posted June 21, 2015 I dont have any braid so I used 14# mono. Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted June 21, 2015 Super User Posted June 21, 2015 2 things stand out. Your rod length and type of line used. Mono is very springy, especially when frogging. The rod length imo should be at least 7ft, for better leverage and castability. If that's the only rod you have, then work with what you got. You can switch to 40lb braid, and your catch rate should improve. Good luck Quote
Nathan_Hardin1 Posted June 21, 2015 Author Posted June 21, 2015 Im getting a 7' duckett ghost wensday from bps. Quote
MrE1979 Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 One thing to remember when top water fishin is to count to 3 before you set the hook. If they are missing your lure completely try slowing your retrieve. 1 Quote
AriAngler Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Im not sure how your retrieving it or if you have a high speed reel or not. You mite need to slow down your retrieve some and make sure your only doing short intermediate jerks. 1 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted June 28, 2015 Super User Posted June 28, 2015 Don't set the hook until you feel the fish. If you set when you see the blow up, you'll miss most of the time. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted June 29, 2015 Super User Posted June 29, 2015 I would be using 7' H fast or even x-fast rod with 50lb braid. Quote
einscodek Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 If yer new to frog fishin, I'd suggest a real soft frog to start with to improve hookups Quote
Heron Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Don't set the hook until you feel the fish. If you set when you see the blow up, you'll miss most of the time. this Quote
gobig Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 I can't agree with this wait until you feel the fish concept. IMO this is a recipe for missing large fish. If i can't see my frog I swing. The amount of time it takes to register that your frog is gone, is more than enough wait time. Big fish will spit that frog as soon as it does not feel real. This is a decent video on froggin by Ish. Pay close attention to the hook set at 11:30. 1 Quote
Super User gardnerjigman Posted June 29, 2015 Super User Posted June 29, 2015 I can't agree with this wait until you feel the fish concept. IMO this is a recipe for missing large fish. If i can't see my frog I swing. The amount of time it takes to register that your frog is gone, is more than enough wait time. Big fish will spit that frog as soon as it does not feel real. This is a decent video on froggin by Ish. Pay close attention to the hook set at 11:30. I couldn't agree more. I don't count, wait to feel, etc. When my frog is gone, I swing. I can't think of any times that i've swung too soon. Most of the time the only misses are due to the fishing missing the bait all together. 1 Quote
BassingNick Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 I've lost count of the times I've had the frog come flying straight back at me from getting excited and setting too quick...duck!!! Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted June 30, 2015 Super User Posted June 30, 2015 I can't agree with this wait until you feel the fish concept. IMO this is a recipe for missing large fish. If i can't see my frog I swing. The amount of time it takes to register that your frog is gone, is more than enough wait time. Big fish will spit that frog as soon as it does not feel real. This is a decent video on froggin by Ish. Pay close attention to the hook set at 11:30. Clearly if your frog is gone or you see your line swimming off, set the hook. That's different than setting on a blow up where they might not have even touched your frog. 1 Quote
Super User tomustang Posted June 30, 2015 Super User Posted June 30, 2015 I don't know, if I had a moderate action and some light fluro I'd have to set the hook into the next county. Quote
Super User MIbassyaker Posted June 30, 2015 Super User Posted June 30, 2015 I can't agree with this wait until you feel the fish concept. IMO this is a recipe for missing large fish. If i can't see my frog I swing. The amount of time it takes to register that your frog is gone, is more than enough wait time. Big fish will spit that frog as soon as it does not feel real. This is a decent video on froggin by Ish. Pay close attention to the hook set at 11:30. I think you're right, but I wonder if the problem in many cases instead is anticipation. It's not the disappearing of the frog that people are reacting to when they do a premature hookset; it's the appearance of any activity at all by the fish in the vacinity of the bait. Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted June 30, 2015 Super User Posted June 30, 2015 I've heard recently that if you reel down and feel the fish after they take it, set it. If you don't feel it, wait for it to float up so you can start twitching and not waste the cast. Interstingly, Snag Proof, who makes Ish's signature frog, say to wait 2 seconds, FWIW. http://www.snagproof.com/pro-tips.html Quote
Super User Master Bait'r Posted June 30, 2015 Super User Posted June 30, 2015 Don't wait. The time it takes for me to get my tip from down low (my preferred walking position) to the 12:00 hookset position is plenty of time. Too many times I've waited and lost my chance when they spit it. I find the quick rip while they're still in the engulfing/strike stage to be the best way as they haven't had the chance to spit it yet. Quote
boostr Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 I usually set right after the blow up. I don't wait to see if my frog is gone. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted July 5, 2015 Global Moderator Posted July 5, 2015 If my frog is gone, I'm setting. When I started out frogging I tried the whole "Make sure you feel him first thing". There's only so many times I could watch my frog float back up just before I set the hook before I gave up on that game plan. If the bait is gone it's most likely because it's still in the fish's mouth. 1 Quote
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