Big C Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 You are mean but only because you are a product of your environment. I think it's a generational thing based on how you were raised. Each subsequent generation differs based on how their upbringing influences them. I'm mean too. It's not being mean, it's just not being a pansy.
Super User slonezp Posted July 1, 2015 Author Super User Posted July 1, 2015 You are mean but only because you are a product of your environment. I think it's a generational thing based on how you were raised. Each subsequent generation differs based on how their upbringing influences them. I'm mean too. Does that mean I got too many azz whoopin's and not enough trophies when I was a kid?
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted July 1, 2015 Super User Posted July 1, 2015 Does that mean I got too many azz whoopin's and not enough trophies when I was a kid? Did you grow up with a belt, a wooden spoon or what ever was handy for punishment when you stepped out of line. When someone was sent to the principals office for the 2nd time was there a wooden paddle on display with holes drilled in the business end to aide in faster deploy of said handle? I wouldn't be surprised if you stepped out of line once or twice. Thst was and is normal behavior . 1
EvanT123 Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 I don't think people are any more sensitive than they've ever been. I think people feel it's acceptable to be more rude than ever. I agree with this but it's also sad when comedians like Jerry Seinfeld and Chris Rock won't do shows at colleges anymore for not wanting to hear backlash over "offensive" commentary. It's also funny hearing people complain about "today's" generation. I guess it's not their kid that is the pansy or lazy azz though lol.
Super User slonezp Posted July 1, 2015 Author Super User Posted July 1, 2015 Did you grow up with a belt, a wooden spoon or what ever was handy for punishment when you stepped out of line. When someone was sent to the principals office for the 2nd time was there a wooden paddle on display with holes drilled in the business end to aide in faster deploy of said handle? I wouldn't be surprised if you stepped out of line once or twice. Thst was and is normal behavior . Belt, wooden spoon and grandmas house slippers. Dad said I had it good because his father disciplined him with a razor strap. Grandma said my parents didn't beat me enough LOL. I also had a father and grandfather with strong work ethic and my father is now 76 and continues to work even though he doesn't have to. Both my dad and grandpa worked 2+ jobs up until retirement. There was no making excuses. I've worked since I was 13 years old. I learned that if I didn't do my job, there's someone else who would. I don't see that nowadays. Not only in the corporate world, it's in the trades as well. People are given too many chances. 1
Super User slonezp Posted July 1, 2015 Author Super User Posted July 1, 2015 It's also funny hearing people complain about "today's" generation. I guess it's not their kid that is the pansy or lazy azz though lol. My son and step daughter have both worked since they were 16, both are in their mid 20's with college degrees (more than I can say for myself). My son working a regular job and delivering pizzas 2-3 nights a week for 9 years. He recently lost his regular job and has been spending his mornings job hunting and afternoons fishing. Every text he sends me talking about fishing I respond "Get a job".
Nice_Bass Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Did you grow up with a belt, a wooden spoon or what ever was handy for punishment when you stepped out of line. When someone was sent to the principals office for the 2nd time was there a wooden paddle on display with holes drilled in the business end to aide in faster deploy of said handle? I wouldn't be surprised if you stepped out of line once or twice. Thst was and is normal behavior . I actually grew up with something called "Board of Education". (I am about to turn 32) It was hand carved by my wood working uncle with the above inscrolled into it, stained, really a good looking board. Anyhow, brother and I would be forced to get it and bring it to our Dad before it got used so it was a real build up before the pain. One day I dodged it and it broke on a steel outdoor chair when he missed- brother and I celebrated its destruction. Anyhow, I guess it was a blessing- Dad was a boxer so it could have been worse. All this being said, I still don't see a lot of what others see around here and am a firm believer there is and always will be and always have had strong and weak people out there.
Crappiebasser Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 I blame it on not keeping score in tee ball anymore. We are not all winners and the score was the proof. 3
Super User flyfisher Posted July 1, 2015 Super User Posted July 1, 2015 I blame it on not keeping score in tee ball anymore. We are not all winners and the score was the proof. the kids keep score and know who wins at least my 5 year old son does. The other parents started calling him the unofficial score keeper in both soccer and t-ball this past year
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted July 2, 2015 Super User Posted July 2, 2015 I actually grew up with something called "Board of Education". (I am about to turn 32) It was hand carved by my wood working uncle with the above inscrolled into it, stained, really a good looking board. Anyhow, brother and I would be forced to get it and bring it to our Dad before it got used so it was a real build up before the pain. One day I dodged it and it broke on a steel outdoor chair when he missed- brother and I celebrated its destruction. Anyhow, I guess it was a blessing- Dad was a boxer so it could have been worse. All this being said, I still don't see a lot of what others see around here and am a firm believer there is and always will be and always have had strong and weak people out there. There is a saying about the "board of education". Discipline, when the board of education meets the seat of higher learning. 2
Super User slonezp Posted July 8, 2015 Author Super User Posted July 8, 2015 Update: I'm still mean. She told me again today. On a side note, I thought this was funny. A friend of mine started working at my company yesterday. He's a tradesman since 2004 and in the military prior to that. The company has a 2 week training class which everyone is required to attend no matter what position they are hired for. The training class really only applies to the "kids". You know, the college grads that think I'm mean and the like. So they had introductions when the new hires first sat down. The "kids" are saying where they went to college and what degrees they have. It gets around to my buddy and he says "My education is I was a Marine for 8 years did 3 tours in Iraq and I learned how to kill people" He told me the room fell silent and if I could have seen the look on their faces, it was priceless. He said he had to crack a joke to get them to lighten up.
Super User SirSnookalot Posted July 8, 2015 Super User Posted July 8, 2015 You don't have to be a nice guy to act nice. Getting along with a coworker is asset to a company, friction is liability. If I owned a company, which I did and had a chipped gear, I'd be looking to replace that broken part. Everyone is replaceable. The last person I wan to alienate is my food server, it's not worth the risk of a honker in my burger. Quite common to have problems with various bureaucracies or companies like cable and phone. A pleasant, personable, diplomatic, approach gets thing accomplished a whole easier than being a tough guy. You don't have to be nice to get things done, just have to act nice. I'm one tough SOB, but when it comes to dealing with people I'm smart enough to know I may need them one day. Had I been jerk it's my tough luck, had I been nice chances are the outcome may be more favorable. 2
Super User slonezp Posted July 8, 2015 Author Super User Posted July 8, 2015 Snook, i get along with everyone. Not everyone gets along with me im blunt, honest, and i dont sugar coat anything. That is where i run into issues. I dont see that as a flaw. 1
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted July 8, 2015 Super User Posted July 8, 2015 Snook, i get along with everyone. Not everyone gets along with me im blunt, honest, and i dont sugar coat anything. That is where i run into issues. I dont see that as a flaw. slonezp, a lot of us in the trades have had the same bluntness and rudeness sent our way. As a matter of fact, we often say that we get treated as second class citizens by our superiors, design teams and representatives of the very owners we're working for. I've seen peeps in the trades treat non-skilled laborers, temp laborers and apprentices with the same demeanor. Outside of our "community", they don't understand how we talk/treat peeps. I just learned that I needed to adapt/adjust my demeanor to the audience that I'm interacting with. What your doing is not wrong, it just may be time to adjust your presentation...so to speak. 2
quanjig Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 Give your waitress a trophy, that should cure everything!!
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted July 9, 2015 Super User Posted July 9, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOhp1L9enr4&feature=player_embedded
Super User Ratherbfishing Posted July 9, 2015 Super User Posted July 9, 2015 I don't consider this a religious post as it pretty much applies to ALL people (religious, athiest, and in-between) and I want to stress that I, myself, am FAR from being perfect (just ask my girlfriend) but whatever happened to the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"? Or, to put it differently (if you are a masochist and like pain): "Do unto others as they would have done unto them." And as Sir snookalot said (I'm paraphrasing): "Even if you don't care about how your actions affect other people, you, youself, will get a LOT farther in life and with people if you try to be pleasant." Intentional rudeness and bluntness is likely only to be met with hostility in kind. My former supervisor was proud of what he termed his "acerbic wit" whereas I just thought he was a (insert nasty word here). He'd have gotten a lot more out of me if he had tried to be nice. 2
Super User J Francho Posted July 9, 2015 Super User Posted July 9, 2015 Looks like we're done here. It's taken a turn toward the political, and that is forbidden here. No exceptions. 1
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