Brett Strohl Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 I've been trying to use palomar knots, but they're a little too difficult to do for large crank baits. What is the best knot or knots for crank baits? (Preferably something reasonably simple) Quote
BobP Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 If you're using regular nylon fishing line, the traditional Improved Cinch Knot or the Trilene Knot do just fine. I use the San Diego Jam Knot and it also works great. It really boils down to which knot you know how to tie quickly and effectively. 1 Quote
tholmes Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 If you're using regular nylon fishing line, the traditional Improved Cinch Knot or the Trilene Knot do just fine. I use the San Diego Jam Knot and it also works great. It really boils down to which knot you know how to tie quickly and effectively. Yep! There are any number of knots that will work just fine. I use the old Improved Clinch for darn near everything because I've been tying it for nearly 50 years and can tie it fast, in the dark, etc. without thinking about it. Tom Quote
Brett Strohl Posted June 18, 2015 Author Posted June 18, 2015 I'm using braid, is there a better knot for that? Quote
SDbassin Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 double uni knot, its the only knot I use now, It will take you a while to learn it, but I've never had it fail on me once, super strong, and I can't stand the palomar Quote
Brett Strohl Posted June 18, 2015 Author Posted June 18, 2015 what don't you like about the palomar knot? Quote
junyer357 Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 I prefer a rapala knot on my cranks unless im using a snap or floro. If i have a snap its an improved trilene. If its floro its a "shaw grigsby" knot. Idunno the name but he hasna utube video showing how to tie it. Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted June 18, 2015 Super User Posted June 18, 2015 I use the Trilene knot almost exclusively for braid. It never fails. Quote
*Hank Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 I use the Trilene knot almost exclusively for braid. It never fails.Ya great knot. Quote
tnt2671 Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 improved cinch , easy to learn easy to tie correctly , strong and works on everything , the only knot i ever use for any line any lb , never had one fail , only exception obviously if I'm tying leader on or backing to main line then it's 100% alberto. i have tried pretty much all the latest and greatest along with the established popular knots and always go back to the cinch because it doesn't care if its braid , fluoro or mono or what lure your tying it to 1 Quote
hatrix Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 For me it's a San Diego Jam for everything or a Uni. I have been using the Uni more lately just to mix it up and tie something different. They are both excellent knots and are easy to tie. They work on any kind of line and any diameter. Quote
Todd2 Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 double uni knot, its the only knot I use now, It will take you a while to learn it, but I've never had it fail on me once, super strong, and I can't stand the palomar Double uni....aka fishin fool knot is what I use too. I switched when I saw it beat the Palomar in Knot Wars a few years ago. 1 Quote
SDbassin Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 Double uni....aka fishin fool knot is what I use too. I switched when I saw it beat the Palomar in Knot Wars a few years ago. I've never had any luck with the palomar, a lot of people use it, but I seemed to break off quite a bit. So far I haven't had one break off with the double uni and feel I can really smash on them with that knot Quote
slimshad Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 Palomar for mono and Eugene for floro. I dont worry about knot strength as much as you guys. I worry about my drag. I haven't had a fish break off at the knot much I don't think. Find a knot you feel comfortable with and set your drag good and go catch some hawgs! Quote
hatrix Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 I've never had any luck with the palomar, a lot of people use it, but I seemed to break off quite a bit. So far I haven't had one break off with the double uni and feel I can really smash on them with that knot Well that is probably because a palomar is actually a knot and a uni is a slip. I would like to see how a palomar compares in a strength test vs other knots after fishing it for a while and not right after it wa tied. I am pretty sure it get weaker and weaker as stress it applied to it. I am sure all knots do but even more so in the case of a palomar. Quote
paulrobinson318 Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 I always tie an Improved Clinch for cranks and most things other than worm hooks. Quote
BobP Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 In knot failures, braid most often slips through the knot when it fails. Fluoro most often breaks due to a kink in the knot somewhere. Both lines tend to do better with knots that have multiple wraps around the main line to cushion the line. Even better are knots that wrap through the hook eye twice before knotting. There are lots of knots that do this, so choose one, learn to tie it, and you'll have fewer breakage problems. I've broken braid tied with a Palomar knot at the knot when I applied a very snappy hookset. The instantaneous strain on the line went right to the knot and broke it. A multi-wrap knot also helps with that problem. Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 21, 2015 Super User Posted June 21, 2015 Snap+1Use a good quality snap, not a snap swivel! You can tie whatever knot you are comfortable with and have confidence with. Tom 2 Quote
Jtrout Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 I tie a palomar knot for everything lol never had a knot fail on me ever when I tie a palomar knot with braid I make sure I wet the knot before pulling it tight. 1 Quote
BassResource.com Advertiser FD. Posted June 21, 2015 BassResource.com Advertiser Posted June 21, 2015 +1 Use a good quality snap, not a snap swivel! You can tie whatever knot you are comfortable with and have confidence with. Tom +2 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted June 27, 2015 Super User Posted June 27, 2015 +1 Use a good quality snap, not a snap swivel! You can tie whatever knot you are comfortable with and have confidence with. Tom I'm pretty sure the OP is asking which knot "you are" most comfortable with. Adding a snap to the equation only introduces a second weak link, where there was only one. Particularly in saltwater or wherever there's jarring shock, a snap is often the weakest link. Roger Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted June 28, 2015 Super User Posted June 28, 2015 I'm pretty sure the OP is asking which knot "you are" most comfortable with. Adding a snap to the equation only introduces a second weak link, where there was only one. Particularly in saltwater or wherever there's jarring shock, a snap is often the weakest link. Roger Roger I respectively agree that a 2nd link increases the chance for failure. I am a very strong advocate of quality snaps for a long time fishing for many different species. I use snaps for all jerkbaits, almost all topwater & all crank baits and all musky & pike baits. I can honestly say I have never had a failure from a snap. I use quality duo lock snaps & most recently owner hyper welded snaps. I do use snaps rated higher in breaking strength than my main line rated breaking point. If you look at all the Luhr Jensen baits they come from the factory with duo snaps installed. Many other bait manufactures do as well including JDM baits like Gan Craft jointed claw. I personally like tying to a snap so I can change baits quickly without reting. I do often retie my snap as the progresses. I usually replace the snap based on the size & strength of the target species. 1 Quote
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