BASSPATROL247 Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 Fish if you could only fish 2 spots? Besides the shoals... Quote
Jd_Phillips_Fishin Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 The west point and the stretch by the ramp. Quote
Ozark_Basser Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 The west side jetties and the west side point with all the nooks and crannies. Quote
jiggerpole Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 I like the first irregular feature you come to north west of the dam all the way to the first north west pocket. The Island looks good to but it is probably a well hit target. More good features on the west bank for sure. Quote
Super User Jar11591 Posted June 18, 2015 Super User Posted June 18, 2015 I would head right to the island and cove. Quote
BASSPATROL247 Posted June 18, 2015 Author Posted June 18, 2015 I should have mentioned that theres a roadbed with a small bridge(whats left,they broke it all up and left it in place) where rainwood road used to be before impounding the lake..also 95% of the lake is lined with rip rap, wich the breakwaters are also made of.. interesting answers so far.. Quote
kikstand454 Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 I was going to suggest that area where the old bridge was. ...before you told me it was an old bridge. Now i REALLY suggest it!! Lol. This time of year, I would concentrate on that bridge area, heading southeast along that break down to where 17' starts. If the countours are rugged enough to show up on this map. ....then in reality its probably full of offshore humps and structure. C-rig, football jig, big worm, deep crank. If the dam pulls water or you have any decent flow. .... I would make sure to see how the current is on the jetties in that area on both sides of the lake. Could be an awesome squarebill spot. .... Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 18, 2015 Super User Posted June 18, 2015 Lots of structure play with in this little lake. I always like to start at the dam and work up the lake. Right side of the dam you see a transition area that creates a pocket where the 7'-9' lines com together. Left side of dam where Park road ends, jetty? Or water pump? Creates a rip rap break worth trying. Major point across from the launch ramp, transition where steep bank starts to flatten at 5'-7'-9' and around the corner inside the 19' line the main lake basin starts to flatten out more, the same depth zone 5'-11' is worth while checking out. Garvin road point end area has a few interesting looking breaks. Underwater shoals look good. Rainwood road bed looks good. All the jetties appear to have drains running into deeper water, good areas! What is at the top of this map? Good looking jetty and break lines into the upper main lake basin to check out. My guess would be to determine if there is a summer thermocline and fish 2'-3' depth zone above the thermocline. If the lake has a aeration system, it may not develop a thermocline. Can't tell from a map what the cover is? So I would target transition areas with worms, jigs, crankbaits day and night. Tom Quote
RAMBLER Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 Island on west side and the irregular shoreline around the Island; Jetties on east side Quote
BASSPATROL247 Posted June 19, 2015 Author Posted June 19, 2015 I was going to suggest that area where the old bridge was. ...before you told me it was an old bridge. Now i REALLY suggest it!! Lol. This time of year, I would concentrate on that bridge area, heading southeast along that break down to where 17' starts. If the countours are rugged enough to show up on this map. ....then in reality its probably full of offshore humps and structure. C-rig, football jig, big worm, deep crank. If the dam pulls water or you have any decent flow. .... I would make sure to see how the current is on the jetties in that area on both sides of the lake. Could be an awesome squarebill spot. .... Besides the roadbed wich is pretty much a levee thats 25ft across and is about 8ft below the surface on top with drops on either side and the shoals there is no real structure in the lake basin, its e renovated lake that was silted in bad so pretty much wat they did was was removed silt from around the shores to make the average depth deeper along with all the jetties,breakwaters,island and vegitation barriers and added the rip rap on the shorelines. Theres no thermocline in the lake...the dam has a small outlet structure on the sw corner of the dam but does not create any current, theres water going into it but its there to keep the lake at normal pool although it will get high for a couple days with good rains.. Quote
BASSPATROL247 Posted June 19, 2015 Author Posted June 19, 2015 Are there shad in this lake? No shad.... Quote
BASSPATROL247 Posted June 19, 2015 Author Posted June 19, 2015 You can see the cover( trees) on google maps etc... glenn cunningham lake omaha nebraska just north of I-680. Cant miss it.. Quote
BASSPATROL247 Posted June 19, 2015 Author Posted June 19, 2015 I can tell everyone who has posted so far are very capable fisherman from responses from just a map...all areas are productive, very suprised though nobody has said anything about the creek east of the ramp by the campgrounds... 1 Quote
BASSPATROL247 Posted June 19, 2015 Author Posted June 19, 2015 Heres the whole lake... cunningham.pdf Quote
BASSPATROL247 Posted June 19, 2015 Author Posted June 19, 2015 Wrb is correct the jetties do have drainages/deep water right up to them for shore access for bank pounders... Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 19, 2015 Super User Posted June 19, 2015 The map you attached doesn't show a creek inlet anywhere and the reason I wanted to see the north end. It appears a creek may enter the NE corner? The camp ground may have a creek inlet, nothing on the map to indicate it, campers tend to be active in those areas. The lake being silted in doesn't help the DO levels if the isn't an aeration system. The outlet tower that I thought could be a pump house jetty should be a good spot. Not interested enough in this lake to look at sat maps to determine cover. As noted I would check for a thermocline, critical element to determine what depth to fish! Without Shad, the shoreline structure and old road bed becomes primary areas to fish with crawdads using the man made rip rap structure and any isolated rock piles where transition zones are located is where I tend to fish. The little island would be of little interest because it's too obviuos and featureless bottom area from the map. Good luck. Tom Quote
Super User Catt Posted June 19, 2015 Super User Posted June 19, 2015 Ok here what interests me When I look at the boat launch area I see what appears to be an underwater point located just below the depths marked 13 & 15' of water. Next area of interest woukd be slightly below the end of Rainwater Road. Again there appears to be an underwater point, there is what I'll call 4 "circles", can't if they are rises or drops. Just below that where it's marked 15' & where all dem lines run together. Like to see all those on Down/Side Imaging 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted June 19, 2015 Super User Posted June 19, 2015 A lake this shallow bass could be everywhere. I would certainly search the flats up north with a depth finder near the drop offs. Might even troll a crankbait . Quote
BASSPATROL247 Posted June 19, 2015 Author Posted June 19, 2015 The map you attached doesn't show a creek inlet anywhere and the reason I wanted to see the north end. It appears a creek may enter the NE corner? The camp ground may have a creek inlet, nothing on the map to indicate it, campers tend to be active in those areas. The lake being silted in doesn't help the DO levels if the isn't an aeration system. The outlet tower that I thought could be a pump house jetty should be a good spot. Not interested enough in this lake to look at sat maps to determine cover. As noted I would check for a thermocline, critical element to determine what depth to fish! Without Shad, the shoreline structure and old road bed becomes primary areas to fish with crawdads using the man made rip rap structure and any isolated rock piles where transition zones are located is where I tend to fish. The little island would be of little interest because it's too obviuos and featureless bottom area from the map. Good luck. Tom No thermocline in any lakes around here, and your right the island does not bear fruit 90% of the time, yrs creek feeds it from the nkrth end and the creek by campground has a small dam with a screen to keep carp and other invasives out wich failed.. Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 19, 2015 Super User Posted June 19, 2015 Nearly every lake that doesn't have a constant flow of water current running through it, or have strong aeration systems, will have a warmer upper water layer with cooler deeper water, where the temperature changes a few degrees within a few feet is a thermocline. Your lakes should have a thermocline during the summer months. Are water contact sports like paddle boarding or swimming allowed? You can feel the deeper cooler water. My guess is a thermocline developes any time now about 2/3rds the average water depth (9'-12' in this lake) and getting more pronounced as the weather gets hotter in August, then turns over sometime in mid October depending on the weather. If the inlet creeks run year around, they are a source of food, DO and other nutrients, are places where baitfish locate and predator bass. Tom Quote
BASSPATROL247 Posted June 21, 2015 Author Posted June 21, 2015 Nearly every lake that doesn't have a constant flow of water current running through it, or have strong aeration systems, will have a warmer upper water layer with cooler deeper water, where the temperature changes a few degrees within a few feet is a thermocline. Your lakes should have a thermocline during the summer months. Are water contact sports like paddle boarding or swimming allowed? You can feel the deeper cooler water. My guess is a thermocline developes any time now about 2/3rds the average water depth (9'-12' in this lake) and getting more pronounced as the weather gets hotter in August, then turns over sometime in mid October depending on the weather. If the inlet creeks run year around, they are a source of food, DO and other nutrients, are places where baitfish locate and predator bass. Tom According to our fisheries biologist there is no thermocline in this or other similar size/depth lakes in eastern nebraska.. Quote
Ozark_Basser Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 No shad.... Bluegill and crawfish are the main forage? Bass probably spend a lot of time up on the banks suspending out toward deeper water during the heat of the day and probably won't stray too far from their chosen area. I'd be paying attention more to visible cover than structure. That's where the food is. Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 21, 2015 Super User Posted June 21, 2015 It doesn't matter where a lake is located; Florida, Texas, California or Nebraska, they all stratify into layers of water temperature....unless there is current to mix the water column. If your lake is wind swept or subjected to high winds strong enough to create current and mix the water weekly, it will develop a thermocline. Meter the lake and determine if there is a life zone depth, bluegill or bass not suspending deeper than a certain depth. Tom Quote
BASSPATROL247 Posted June 22, 2015 Author Posted June 22, 2015 Bluegill and crawfish are the main forage? Bass probably spend a lot of time up on the banks suspending out toward deeper water during the heat of the day and probably won't stray too far from their chosen area. I'd be paying attention more to visible cover than structure. That's where the food is. Correct, yoy gills etc.. and crawdads would ne the main forage there. And i do focus on visible cover i.e rip rap trees etc...and i beleive they do stay in the general area like you say because ive caught the same fish in the same area on many occasions, i know because every fish i catch gets a pic and i enter it in a log i keep for future reference... 1 Quote
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