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Hi all,

I recently upgraded from an Avid MLXF 6ft 9" spinning rod to the G Loomis NRX 822s SYR for Shaky Head fishing.

It is night and day an improvement over the Avid. Now I'm looking for a Drop Shot rod but the NRX 822s DSR rod actually has a higher lure weight than the SYR.

This has me thinking that the SYR might be better for Drop Shotting ?

Let me know your thoughts.

Matthew

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Most guys use quite a bit more weight on a DS than you think. I start at 1/2 oz. that doesn't mean I want a meat stick for DS. It's still ML, but can handle that sinker. I've never used the NRX, but that is how the GLX version was.

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If you're vertical fishing exceeding the lure weight range a little won't hurt a thing. If you're loading the rod and casting any distance you're better offer staying within what the rod handles comfortably. Technique specific labels are just suggestions. Try it out and see what you think for yourself. 

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I tried the NRX 822s SYR tonight using a Shimano Stradic CI4+ and 7lb Sunline Sniper.

First of all, the NRX is a great rod, it is so balanced and feels amazing.

It can easily double as a drop shot rod as it is super sensitive. I'm not sure the Drop Shot rod would be as good as a Shaky Rod though as it might lack the back bone to set the hook.

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I tried the NRX 822s SYR tonight using a Shimano Stradic CI4+ and 7lb Sunline Sniper.

First of all, the NRX is a great rod, it is so balanced and feels amazing.

It can easily double as a drop shot rod as it is super sensitive. I'm not sure the Drop Shot rod would be as good as a Shaky Rod though as it might lack the back bone to set the hook.

You might want to check out BassResource YouTube videos on fishing. You generally let the fish hook themselves on the drop shot with minimal hook set.

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Most guys use quite a bit more weight on a DS than you think. I start at 1/2 oz. that doesn't mean I want a meat stick for DS. It's still ML, but can handle that sinker. I've never used the NRX, but that is how the GLX version was.

Pretty much same here, I use 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 ounce ds weights mostly. I don't really understand why Aaron Martens' go-to is 1/8, on most days 3/16 ounce is the lightest I go and maintain enough bottom contact.

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That's my point. I have heard reviews that if you were to get one Rod, either the DSR or SYR then the DSR was the one to get. However, I doubt the DSR has the backbone like the SYR to set the hook when Shaky Head fishing. While the SYR is sensitive enough to feel those light baits when drop shotting

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That's my point. I have heard reviews that if you were to get one Rod, either the DSR or SYR then the DSR was the one to get. However, I doubt the DSR has the backbone like the SYR to set the hook when Shaky Head fishing. While the SYR is sensitive enough to feel those light baits when drop shotting

I read your posts and know your new to fishing so I'm really not trying to bust your chops. You have some choices. If you need to rationalize why you need another rod. Just buy it and be happy. No need to make excuses why a certain model can't get the job done. I'm going to go against the grain here and say you would be surprised how versatile your generic type rods can be. 90% of my fishing is done with a medium light spinning rod. It has caught everything from 3 inch rock bass to 15 pound northern pike. I fish everything from 1/8 tubes to 5/8 top waters and it works for all. There is nothing wrong with having a rod for different techniques but it's not needed. Here's a shameless plug for my favorite rod. Check out a sc5 medium light fast 6'6-7'0.

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You guys seem to think a shaky head hook is like 10/0 circle hook, lol.

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Coming from course fishing in the UK, a 3/0 is huge. Over the pond, you would use a size 16 on 4lb line to catch fish small to med Large Mouth Bass sized fish. I found yesterday when using a size 1 that it was too small so I'm quickly becoming accustomed to 3/0 being the norm.

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On 6/16/2015 at 8:14 PM, Bass&PanMan said:

That's my point. I have heard reviews that if you were to get one Rod, either the DSR or SYR then the DSR was the one to get. However, I doubt the DSR has the backbone like the SYR to set the hook when Shaky Head fishing. While the SYR is sensitive enough to feel those light baits when drop shotting

The dsr 822 has more backbone than you need And it’s also stouter all the way through to the tip. It’s not traditional  for dropshot rod! It’s made to fish heavier weights, heavier line and heavier structure. It’s got more of a parabolic bend to it. but it’s got plenty of backbone I mean it’s almost like a medium. It might not have the backbone  Of the syr,  But it’s a stout rod. The main difference in these rods is the DSR is made for throwing drop shots in deeper, heavier cover specifically,  the SYR isn’t.  it’s just made for shaky head not in deep or heavier cover. I’ve never put my hands on the SYR so I don’t know exactly but I know what the DSR 822 is  I have one. I think all these specific rods are overkill. Unless you’re fishing an extremely small drop shot rig like a  a Robo worm rig wacky with a very small hook, so you can jiggle the bait a little. Any medium light rod will work. I don’t think medium is good because you need that sensitivity of a medium light, unless it’s one of the more expensive blanks that are lighter.  But I’m convinced that even with a stouter ML tip you can still land in the fish Theyre not gonna break free from the Hook even with a smaller hook. This is why drag Set up is important. Brent ehler uses one rod a medium 7’1 with a softer tip for all his spinning. But I am a big fan of staying with medium light for a drop shot because you need that extra tip and you need that extra sensitivity of a medium light rod. Medium rods in general or set up more for like that 8 to 14 pound test it’s a bit high for a drop shot. But there are some good medium alternatives for example the Ehler drop shot rod I haven’t used one but he uses it. John crews uses a 7’4, We’re talking about extremely light blanks that make that medium almost feel like a medium light.

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