cpeck99 Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 I was recently in a tournament on a city lake where the bass were very pressured. I was using a senko on 8 pound mono and got bit off (once in prefishing once in the tournament). It was probably anywhere between 3-6 pounds. I only say that because 2 pounders couldn't get it in their mouths enough to get hooked. Now I'm looking into how to prevent that. Would I get less bite offs on 8 or 10 pound braid than on mono or should I go with heavier braid? Quote
sprint61 Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 A 2 pound bass couldn't get a senko in its mouth enough to get hooked ? I wouldn't think you are getting bit off your line is probably getting weak spots and breaking on hoooksets. Re tying ever so often would solve your problem more than likely. Quote
Super User MIbassyaker Posted June 15, 2015 Super User Posted June 15, 2015 2lb largemouth? Largemouth a pound and under where I fish have zero problem getting a 5" senko in their mouths. If anything, they're a little too good at it. How often are you checking your mono near the bait for nicks and scuffs? Check it frequently and be liberal about cutting off any damaged portions you find and retying. Be especially sure to check after each fish and after getting hung in cover. Quote
tbone1993 Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 I was recently in a tournament on a city lake where the bass were very pressured. I was using a senko on 8 pound mono and got bit off (once in prefishing once in the tournament). It was probably anywhere between 3-6 pounds. I only say that because 2 pounders couldn't get it in their mouths enough to get hooked. Now I'm looking into how to prevent that. Would I get less bite offs on 8 or 10 pound braid than on mono or should I go with heavier braid? I like using fluorocarbon for my senkos as I want the most finesse approach possible. That being said I would check your line, hooks, and knots. Throwing a dry knot of worn line will snap off like no other. Also if you're hooks suck you might not get enough penetration power to stick the fish right away causing more stress on the knot. 2lb bass love senkos and unless I'm sight fishing I tend to catch more fish in the 12in-17in range on a wacky rig than I do 3-6lb fish. Find what works best for you. Spool one reel with 8lb braid and another with 8 Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 15, 2015 Super User Posted June 15, 2015 Bass can't bite through any line, no sharp teeth! Tom Quote
Canyon explorer Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 Does the lake have turtles and or gars? Quote
cpeck99 Posted June 15, 2015 Author Posted June 15, 2015 A 2 pound bass couldn't get a senko in its mouth enough to get hooked ? I wouldn't think you are getting bit off your line is probably getting weak spots and breaking on hoooksets. Re tying ever so often would solve your problem more than likely. Quote
cpeck99 Posted June 15, 2015 Author Posted June 15, 2015 I was using a senko type bait, the Pocket Rocket from Reaction Innovations. It is 5.5 inches and much bulkier. Quote
VAHunter Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 Unless you are setting the hook way to hard, I'd have to guess that your line was either getting frayed or your knots were failing. By the way, as previously noted, bass much smaller than 2 lbs. can eat the bait you describe very easily. Finally, you may want to check your drag as well. With such light line you need the drag to slip just a bit on the hook set to help reduce pressure on the line. Quote
Chris S Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 I was recently in a tournament on a city lake where the bass were very pressured. I was using a senko on 8 pound mono and got bit off (once in prefishing once in the tournament). It was probably anywhere between 3-6 pounds. I only say that because 2 pounders couldn't get it in their mouths enough to get hooked. Now I'm looking into how to prevent that. Would I get less bite offs on 8 or 10 pound braid than on mono or should I go with heavier braid? Where are you located, we have zebra muscles in some of our lake and if you are not checking the line regardless of type you are asking for trouble. Quote
cpeck99 Posted June 15, 2015 Author Posted June 15, 2015 I'm just curious if braid can get bit off like mono. Quote
cpeck99 Posted June 15, 2015 Author Posted June 15, 2015 There is no pickerel in Lake Springfield. I don't even think there are musky or walleye in there. Quote
cpeck99 Posted June 15, 2015 Author Posted June 15, 2015 Unless you are setting the hook way to hard, I'd have to guess that your line was either getting frayed or your knots were failing. By the way, as previously noted, bass much smaller than 2 lbs. can eat the bait you describe very easily. Finally, you may want to check your drag as well. With such light line you need the drag to slip just a bit on the hook set to help reduce pressure on the line. Quote
cpeck99 Posted June 15, 2015 Author Posted June 15, 2015 I believe it had to do with using light line not frayed line or knot strength. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 15, 2015 Super User Posted June 15, 2015 Set your drag to 1/3 of the break stregnth (not "test") and as long as your line isn't nicked and the knot is sound, you won' break off any bass. Quote
Super User scaleface Posted June 15, 2015 Super User Posted June 15, 2015 I believe it had to do with using light line not frayed line or knot strength. I would check everything and retie often. Once I had some bass breaking off too often . I noticed a little curl on my line. One of the guides had a microscopic crack and every time line was retrieved it was shaving off a little . Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted June 16, 2015 Super User Posted June 16, 2015 If you are breaking off 3 pound fish in little to no cover with 8lb line it is user error.. Period. If you think you are getting "bit off" by toothy fish, braid wont help. You need fluorocarbon. Braid will not be very abrasion resistant against toothy predators. Quote
Jon G Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 There is no pickerel in Lake Springfield. I don't even think there are musky or walleye in there. Were you fishing around the docks at Springfield? If so I bet you frayed your line on the docks. Quote
hawkoath Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 I don't think think the same diameter line whether it be braid, fluorocarbon or traditional nylon monofilament would make a difference. In terms of abrasion resistance, which I think you are referring to, monofilament I believe is superior to braid. I remember seeing youtube videos testing abrasion resistance of similar diameter line side by side and reading articles about why this is the case (though I can't remember why right now). Monofilament naturally degrades over time especially if exposed to sunlight and other adverse conditions. Maybe the line was just used too many times and became old. Was the break in the line a clean cut? 1 Quote
ColdSVT Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 I was using a senko type bait, the Pocket Rocket from Reaction Innovations. It is 5.5 inches and much bulkier. i have caught bass under 12 inches on 6xd, 1oz jigs, and a 10inch rage anaconda...the pocket rocket is not nearly as bulky as those baits... Quote
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