Spinner Bait Challenged

[War Eagle 44]

Also since no one else has mentioned this I'll bring it up, experiment with the amount of line you leave between your rod tip and you spinnerbait. Sometimes this can make a huge difference, depending on the action and power of your rod and your own personal casting style it's important to find just the "right" amount of distance.

Just something to consider.

[Cgolf]

I know the fly casting roll cast, but not sure with a bait caster. My cast I picked up from a KVD vid is the following, is it a roll cast?

Start with rod at 2 o'clock 45 degrees to target with lure hanging about 12" down. Do a pretty violent clockwise loop and cast lure out on a flat and low trajectory that lands surprisingly splash free. Not a max distance cast, but goes farther than you would think and great for windy conditions.

And OP good luck finding a video, all I got was fly casting videos.

[Fishes in trees]

Hard to say.  Could be a gear issue, could be a technique issue.  I know that the rods I use for spinner baits have a little more "tip" in them than the rods I use for bottom contact baits.  The rods that I use for spinner baits are a little less "tippy" than the rods I use for other moving baits, like cranks & trap style baits.

 

The notion of trying a roll cast is a good idea.  The notion of turning one or more of your brakes back on is a good idea.  The notion of backing off, and not trying to muscle each cast for maximum distance is a good idea.

 

Probably you just need more practice using that bait.   I know that often when I go down a 30 yard stretch of bank, I'll do a roll cast, maybe an overhand or 3/4 overhand cast,  maybe a pitch, maybe a backhanded roll cast, more of a "sweep" cast really.   Point here, don't limit yourself.  Sooner or later, you will find yourself in a position where an over head cast won't work but a pitch cast will.  Conversely, if you are burning a spinner bait across an open point, why wouldn't you go overhead with your cast, to get maximum distance?  My advice would be to learn them all, to the point that you can execute any cast in any sequence.

 

If you want to learn the roll cast, watch a couple of Jimmy Houston shows and do what he does.

[PhatBass]

Will be working on technique this weekend.  

 

Add some break back on.

Reduce force of cast.

Try to keep lure lower to the water.

Try Roll Cast – As Dink noticed you-tube search gives you all fly fishing videos.

 

 

I’m only in my second year returning to fishing after not fishing for 40 years. First time throwing spinner baits.

Last time I fished I was using a Ronco Pocket Fisherman with canned corn for sunnies on the pond down the road where I grew up.

If you’re under 45 years old you might not know what the Ronco Pocket Fisherman is! Surprisingly there are a ton of videos for it & they have it on Amazon for $17. Think my cost something like $5.

[Catt]

Thanks for all the feedback!

I have been throwing overhead & sidearm but looks like roll cast seems to be the popular consensus.

I do try to muscle the most distance I can get out of my casts & that could be a contributing factor.

I’ll try to find a video that shows the roll cast technique.

There is your problem!

You can not force the cast!

Let your rod do what it's designed to do...cast the lure.

[Shanes7614]

Simply tighten your tension knob a little as line coming off your spool to fast at the beginning of your cast is most likely your culprit. Also check that your know is super tight around the wire of the main line tie as loose knots will allow the line to shift on the wire bend causing more force towards the outside of the wire arm causing it to start a spin. Weird analogy but think of a curveball being thrown with a baseball. More pressure on one side causes the extra spin. Lastly, try using a bit more thumb at the BEGINNING of your cast and allowing to free spool in mid air and then thumb pressure again as spool is slowing down. The hook and blades should be leading your bait through the air as the friction from your line alone should hold back the line enough to prevent the extra spin.

[shanksmare]

I should have recommended this earlier. Watch Glenn's excellent video on spinnerbait fishing at: http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/spinnerbaits-bass-fishing.html

 

Towards the end of the video Glenn shows how to execute the underhand loop cast (forehand and backhand). The info in this video should get you on the right tack.

 

If you watch a Jimmy Houston show, he uses this cast all the time. He may have invented it?

[lmbfisherman]

Like a lot of have said.  Side arm or roll casts are ideal.  Although I also don't have problems bombing them.  Curious if it's the brand you are using?  I use -> Generic, Strike King and Booyah never had a problem. 

[HoosierHawgs]

I cast my Spinnerbaits just like I cast everything else, whatever gets it accurately to the area I want it to get to. I've never had trouble casting Spinnerbaits overhand, underhand, pitching, or any other type of casting. What is your Spinnerbait setup?

[Cgolf]

To the op reading through all this and the original post, it could just be a case that the tangles are happening at the end of the cast as the bait loses forward energy and the blades take over and cause the bait to helicopter and tangle. As everyone has said using the thumb brake while the bait is above the water just before it hits this point should take care of the issue. Hitting the brakes hard straightens out the bait and it should be ready to retrieve as soon as it hits the water.

When I am tossing them shallow, I am pretty sure I stop the spool in the air and switch hands and engage the reel as the lure is hitting the water, I have had many hits just as the bait is dropping in.

[Catt]

Y'all ever watch an experienced angler with a fly rod?

What does the casting, the angler's arm or the rod?

The roll cast is so smooth & accurate because of little arm movement with a lot of rod movement; the same with flipping & pitching, the rod is doing the casting.

Your rod is designed with two purposes in mind, casting the lure & fighting the fish.

Let it do it's job!

[PhatBass]

I should have recommended this earlier. Watch Glenn's excellent video on spinnerbait fishing at: http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/spinnerbaits-bass-fishing.html

 

Towards the end of the video Glenn shows how to execute the underhand loop cast (forehand and backhand). The info in this video should get you on the right tack.

 

If you watch a Jimmy Houston show, he uses this cast all the time. He may have invented it?

 

Shanksmare - Well that video really covered just about everything you’d want to know about spinner baits.

I’ve watched it like 4 times.

 

Thanks everyone for all the input.

 

Had motor trouble last Sat & had to take the boat up to Highway Marine. Couldn’t put all the advice to test.

Sun @ 0700 headed to Lake Towhee but 80% was already chocked with lilies & there were 10+ people already established in the few fishable spots.

 

Doesn’t look like I’m getting the boat back by this weekend but they are calling for on/off rain most of the weekend.