Bass&PanMan Posted June 9, 2015 Author Posted June 9, 2015 Apologies, I used mixed terms. I meant Gear Ratio The gear ration of the 2500 stella and stradic ci4+ are both 6:0:1 compared to the Rareneium which is 5:0:1. Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted June 9, 2015 Super User Posted June 9, 2015 Correct. And that's why I went with the Twinpower HG, because the HG is a 6.0 gear ratio. I don't know which ratio would be more desirable for shakeyhead as I don't fish it. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted June 9, 2015 Super User Posted June 9, 2015 Did i really just read that a consideration of a reel is how it matches, color wise, to a rod? that is a new one for me. I have never used a stella other than in a store checking one out but i am happy with my stradics. 1 Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted June 9, 2015 Super User Posted June 9, 2015 Did i really just read that a consideration of a reel is how it matches, color wise, to a rod?You most certainly did. Life's too short to fish with ugly equipment, especially when you're putting that much money in it. A CI4 looks like ass on a blue/green SCV. I actually build my rods to complement the intended reels. NFC with charcoal wraps and red trim to match a CI4. SCV with Ti guides and steel blue trim to match a Stradic MG. I have a silver rodgeeks that will be wrapped to match my other CI4. Had I not found the old Sustain in my reel box, I would have bought something with gold accents to go with my Spybait build. 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted June 9, 2015 Super User Posted June 9, 2015 i guess that is true, just not how i view things. If i was making my own rods, which it seems that you are, then i would probably do the same thing. Quote
Ozark_Basser Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Did i really just read that a consideration of a reel is how it matches, color wise, to a rod? that is a new one for me. I have never used a stella other than in a store checking one out but i am happy with my stradics. When you make rods as pretty as ^^^^^ he does, you want them to match. I used to never care about matching rods and reels until I started building. Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted June 9, 2015 Super User Posted June 9, 2015 Little off topic, but this rod was designed around the reel. 6 Quote
Super User senile1 Posted June 9, 2015 Super User Posted June 9, 2015 Little off topic, but this rod was designed around the reel. That is a thing of beauty! Quote
Bass&PanMan Posted June 9, 2015 Author Posted June 9, 2015 Nice. I'm thinking of sticking with the Stradic, I can't see even the Twin Power is worth $100 more and then the Stella is like $350 more. 1 Quote
John G Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Did i really just read that a consideration of a reel is how it matches, color wise, to a rod? that is a new one for me. There has been more than one Thread on this subject over the years. http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/155121-anyone-not-care-about-there-combos-appearance-or-colors/ Quote
dam0007 Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 I run a few Stradics. Love them. With that being said last year I almost bought a Stella for SW until I handled the Sustain FG which I bought. Between those 2 I couldn't justify the difference. But I'm also talking a 6000 size reel. Stella is awesome but I think it's over kill for a shakey head exclusive combo. Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted June 9, 2015 Super User Posted June 9, 2015 Did i really just read that a consideration of a reel is how it matches, color wise, to a rod? that is a new one for me. man i started a thread on this vey topic not too very long ago and you'd be surprised. About 1/2 the people on here take color into consideration on the rod/reel purchase.... i'm with you, doesn't matter, but to many it does. 1 Quote
John G Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 man i started a thread on this vey topic not too very long ago and you'd be surprised. About 1/2 the people on here take color into consideration on the rod/reel purchase.... i'm with you, doesn't matter, but to many it does. It matters to me. I am not going to buy a green NRX and then put a red Scorpion on it. Reel colors that are acceptable for a green NRX would be green, white, gold and silver with green and silver leading the way. With a black NRX with blue wraps, black, gold, silver and gray with black and silver looking the best IMHO. The thing that is great about a black rod is any reel color will match but it's nice if you can color coordinate the reel with the lettering on the rod. For example, a Loomis MBR IMX or GLX is a black rod with gold lettering. A Conquest looks great on a Loomis MBR IMX or GLX because they are both black and Gold. Yes, I am serious about this. LOL 4 Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted June 9, 2015 Super User Posted June 9, 2015 It matters to me. I am not going to buy a green NRX and then put a red Scorpion on it. Reel colors that are acceptable for a green NRX would be green, white, gold and silver with green and silver leading the way. With a black NRX with blue wraps, black, gold, silver and gray with black and silver looking the best IMHO. The thing that is great about a black rod is any reel color will match but it's nice if you can color coordinate the reel with the lettering on the rod. For example, a Loomis MBR IMX or GLX is a black rod with gold lettering. A Conquest looks great on a Loomis MBR IMX or GLX because they are both black and Gold. Yes, I am serious about this. LOL i know you are and i truly appreciate it! i just don't pay attention to fine details like that so it doesn't bother me, but i completely get it. all that said, my red cumara/chronarch ci4+ are a sweet looking pair both with that dark red. also the lew's TP/daiwa tatula rod are a pretty nice looking pair as are the lew's bb1/tatula pair. i've just never put enough thought in at the time of purchase for it to be a consideration. i'm typically application first/price second/all else last. now all that said, the stella would probably look good on any rod!!! that twin power looks amazing too though, probably couldn't go wrong here if you have that kind of coin to spend.... 1 Quote
Bass&PanMan Posted June 9, 2015 Author Posted June 9, 2015 Anyone had experience with the Shimano Stradic CI4+ 2500HGS Complex. It looks to have a nice color scheme. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 9, 2015 Super User Posted June 9, 2015 The ladies like a man with a nice reel. 2 Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted June 9, 2015 Super User Posted June 9, 2015 That new Stradic may have just bumped the CI4 off of my new tube rod and make me change the wraps from red to blue. If they were available, one of these would be on a plane bound for the US tomorrow! Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted June 10, 2015 Super User Posted June 10, 2015 Is it worth the money? I have six of them and say not in a million years. It's no more functional than the Sustain or Stradic. Is it worth the money? I have six of them and they're absolutely flawless in build quality and performance. They are one of the finest finished reels that I have ever had the pleasure of fishing. Depends on who is answering the question, and which should he happens to be sitting on. It also depends on whether I'm actually fishing a spinning feel, or not, when you ask me. When I have an Antares in my hand, nope. Not worth it for the Stella. When I have a Stella in my hand, you better believe it. It's like holding "kitty cat" in the palm of your hands. For enthusiasts only. 2 Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 i guess that is true, just not how i view things. If i was making my own rods, which it seems that you are, then i would probably do the same thing. Scott makes more than just rods. These are works of art and I never cared about a reel matching a rod, but after Scott made a few rods for me, it's an insult to the rod to not have it complimented by the reel. With the fly rods he has made (and will make) me, I even try to have the line color match as best I can. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted June 10, 2015 Super User Posted June 10, 2015 you guys are into it nothing wrong with that and those are some nice rods for sure. Quote
masterbass Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 The stella is probably an amazing reel, but I'd never spend that much cash for 2 reasons: it's out of my price range and I don't use spinning gear that often. When I do use it, I'm completely fine with my president. I've asked this question before too because I can't wrap my head around what an $800 spinning reel does better. Quote
bass1980 Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Well after close to 10 trips on my Stella and landing some nice size fish I can definitely say the Stella FI is one amazing reel. Tested it against a buddies Stella FE and the FI is smoother. Fished it side by side with my ci4+ and I once thought my ci4+ was buttery smooth but now it seems semi rough when picking up the Stella right after. Is it worth it? My honest opinion is a fresh water spinning reel should never be sold over $500 unless made of platinum and diamonds. I just can't see enough benefits to the techs added in a spinning reel unlike a baitcaster. I got mine for a really good deal but it was still over $500. Even with my opinions, my Stella is definitely worth it to me lol. Why is it worth it, well it puts a smile to my face every time I use it knowing it performs just as good as it looks. It does not make fish jump in the boat but it makes me enjoy fishing even more knowing I'm focusing on the fish, lure, and my gears. Well this post keeps getting off track with color coordinating but I guess I can contribute with a picture of my setup. Hey it even color matches! 8 Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted June 10, 2015 Super User Posted June 10, 2015 I'm sure it's nice a reel but it isn't worth it to me. I've used a 4000 several times, a bit nicer than a stradic but not enough nicer to warrant the price for me. When it comes to a high end offshore reel the stella is a nice choice, but there are other very good options. If one is into reviews Alan Hawke gives some of the most comprehensive reviews I've read. His reviews are based on disassemble and examining the parts for quality, then field tested. At one time the stella was his #1 offshore reel, it no longer is in his top 5. Quote
John G Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 I'm sure it's nice a reel but it isn't worth it to me. I've used a 4000 several times, a bit nicer than a stradic but not enough nicer to warrant the price for me. When it comes to a high end offshore reel the stella is a nice choice, but there are other very good options. If one is into reviews Alan Hawke gives some of the most comprehensive reviews I've read. His reviews are based on disassemble and examining the parts for quality, then field tested. At one time the stella was his #1 offshore reel, it no longer is in his top 5. Snook, this isn't a smart remark at you but I dont think the guys at Shimano that design the SW Stella give a rats hiney what Alan Hawke says about the Stella. I looked up the financial numbers for Shimano, 2014 I think, and they credited the new Stella with a lot of their worldwide sales so the way they see it, people are happy with the new Stella. All they said about the new Stella was that it was met with a very positive reception. Go to page 2 http://www.shimano.com/content/dam/corporate/Financial%20Information/Summary%20of%20Financial%20Results/Summary%20of%20Financial%20Results%20FY2014-Q3.pdf 1 Quote
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