Reel Manufacturers Who Use The Same Factories

[Ozark_Basser]

I seen a post where Mike from DVT said that the PQ was made in the same factory as the revo sx. What other companies do this? I figure Shimano and Daiwa make there own, but do they make anyone else's reels? I wouldn't mind knowing exactly who makes each reel company's reels.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Daiwa does or did make some for I believe Gander Mtn but had the Daiwa logo still. Revo, Lew's, Pflueger, PQ, Browning are all built in the same factory on contract. Quantum is known for making limited run models of their own for big box stores. The Concept reels are made by either Quantum or Silstar Pinnacle. 

[21farms]

yes, shimano and daiwa own their own factories and design/build their own reels. daiwa has on occasion made some of the house-brand reels (e.g., cabela's) but they usually label them as "engineered by daiwa". one of the biggest contract reel manufacturers is doyo in korea (revos, lew's, some BPS). there are a few other big contract manufacturers in asia (dawon, silstar, etc.). some abu round reels are still made in sweden.

[bootytrain]

Don't forget Banax, they make Quantum's, ***, and Okumas

[Ozark_Basser]

Are revos, pfluegers, etc. All made by Pure Fishing?

Edit: sorry I posted before I saw 21 farm's post.

[21farms]

Are revos, pfluegers, etc. All made by Pure Fishing?

pure fishing is a holding company that owns several different brands (abu-garcia, pflueger, penn, etc.); they don't actually manufacture anything.

[WPCfishing]

Doyo on ebay:

 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=&_osacat=108153&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H0.Xdoyo.TRS0&_nkw=doyo&_sacat=108153

 

Do you think this seller has this reel priced a bit high? I do.

[jtesch]

Second one looks a lot like a jdm Abu Aurora and may be very similar. Even the handle looks like jdm Revo shop stuff. May be a really good reel---------or not. Still over priced. If they are Doyo factory reels using high end parts Abu is probably not real happy with them

[bootytrain]

Second one looks a lot like a jdm Abu Aurora and may be very similar. Even the handle looks like jdm Revo shop stuff. May be a really good reel---------or not. Still over priced. If they are Doyo factory reels using high end parts Abu is probably not real happy with them

The only thing Abu designed and has Doyo incorporate in the Revos is the IVCB brakes(not surprisingly Doyo came out with their own version which Lews uses) and the Infini spool design. Everything else they pick from what Doyo has available.

[zachb34]

I know daiwa made the BPS polite special the very first one of the prolites. They where supposed to be a cheapened clone of the daiwa sol. I loved them until they just died out on me. For the most part Daiwa does their own and Shimano does all of their own. Bps, pflueger, abu garcia, lews and I believe modern penn reels are all doyo. Just about all house brand reels (Gander, BPS, Cabelas) come from Doyo too.

[WPCfishing]

I suppose we should never think that: My reel is better than your reel thing anymore. It's more like: My deal was better than your deal!

[SirSnookalot]

pure fishing is a holding company that owns several different brands (abu-garcia, pflueger, penn, etc.); they don't actually manufacture anything.

Somewhat confusing for Penn reels.  On there web site reel repair goes to PA. http://www.pennfishing.com/PENN-repair-department.html, and warranty goes to Spirit Lake, http://www.pennfishing.com/PENN-customer-care.html

[Hooligan]

I know daiwa made the BPS polite special the very first one of the prolites. They where supposed to be a cheapened clone of the daiwa sol. I loved them until they just died out on me. For the most part Daiwa does their own and Shimano does all of their own. Bps, pflueger, abu garcia, lews and I believe modern penn reels are all doyo. Just about all house brand reels (Gander, BPS, Cabelas) come from Doyo too.

Daiwa has never made reels for BPS. There was/is a long standing dispute about infringement of patent rights and they refuse to manufacture reels for them. Period.

Doyo, Yonh Huang, Dawon, Kaito and a couple others all make reels for BPS, they are not limited to being made by Doyo. They make, I believe, two series of reels for BPS. The remainder are farmed.

There are also several large, relatively unnamed Chinese manufacturers that make reels for just about every company except Daiwa and Shimano.

[GetJigginWithIt]

I know daiwa made the BPS polite special the very first one of the prolites. They where supposed to be a cheapened clone of the daiwa sol. I loved them until they just died out on me. For the most part Daiwa does their own and Shimano does all of their own. Bps, pflueger, abu garcia, lews and I believe modern penn reels are all doyo. Just about all house brand reels (Gander, BPS, Cabelas) come from Doyo too.

Cabelas are mostly Daiwa.

[Tiller]

Using the same contract manufacturer doesn't mean that the reels are the same or are of the same quality. Some companies may purchase and use similar or the same components or sub assemblies but others may not. Without understanding the specifications/requirements/design and the contract, saying that they're from the same plant means nothing as far as performance and quality. Many companies use the same contract manufacturers because they specialize in certain manufacturing technologies but the product they produce is not the same.

[TorqueConverter]

I seen a post where Mike from DVT said that the PQ was made in the same factory as the revo sx. What other companies do this? I figure Shimano and Daiwa make there own, but do they make anyone else's reels? I wouldn't mind knowing exactly who makes each reel company's reels.

 

It's more than just being made in the same factories  A lot of the reels out there are the intellectual property, as in they are designed, engineered and manufactured by a handful of OEM reel companies.  It's a mater of opening a manufactures catalog and selecting a reel frame with components A-Z and marketing it as [insert name here].  If you like Lews, Purefishing and some of the good BPS stuff then you actually like Doyo Engineering reels.  Shimano and Dawia are in-house as far as I'm aware and Daiwa fancies themselves as a OEM of the Cabelas stuff sometimes.         

[21farms]

hooligan is correct about daiwa not making BPS reels. there have been one or two that were BPS "exclusives" but they were still branded as daiwas.

 

as for the prolites, the original ones were the "prolite finesse" reels...they were gold-colored and there were three generations of them: PRL05H, PRL05HB and PRL05C. the first two shared the same centrifugal/magnetic braking system as pfluegers of the time which i believe were manufactured by doyo. some people referred to these as "the poor man's alphas/sol" because they were very good performers with lighter lures at 1/3 the cost of the daiwas.

 

BPS then came out with the "carbonlite" reels...they were also gold-colored and were introduced at the same time as the prolite finesses were discontinued so people obviously got them confused. however, these were very different reels than the prolite finesses, moving from 05-sized frames to larger 10-size frames, about the same as abu-garcia revos. lightweight casting performance was not as good but these were very good reels as well.

 

after awhile, BPS discontinued the gold carbonlite reels and replaced them with the "johnny morris carbonlites" (confused yet?). the first-generation ones were dark grey and the current ones are white. i traced the lineage of these to dawon (also south korean).

 

every so often, BPS tries to captialize on the prolite name by reaching into the spare parts bins and offering limited-run reels with names like "prolite special". as far as i can tell, these are glommed together by the same chinese company that is making the current BPS extreme reels.

[bflp3]

Somewhat confusing for Penn reels.  On there web site reel repair goes to PA. http://www.pennfishing.com/PENN-repair-department.html, and warranty goes to Spirit Lake, http://www.pennfishing.com/PENN-customer-care.html

Abu Garcia reels go to Spirit Lake too. It is not uncommon for companies to have the manufacturing in Asia and have the warranty / repair facilities handled state side, most likely because it isn't cost effective to ship single reels to china and back for repairs.