BigSkyBasser Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Summer is now here and many of us are readily looking forward to the rising water and air temperatures. This of course brings forth arguably one of the most exciting bites all year........topwater. Among these is the frog, which if you've never seen a bass blast yours out of a thick section of lily pads; you're missing out. Of course out in Montana we have significantly less heavy vegetation and more deep rocky lakes and rivers that form giant pools next to drop offs. I'm curious if anyone has ever fished frogs in open water like you would a popper? I will definitely test this out in the coming months as the aggressive smallies would more than likely smack a frog on the surface of open water. Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted June 2, 2015 Super User Posted June 2, 2015 I would think if you matched the colors to those of what the Bass are feeding on (like a Bronzeye Shad or whatever color matches your local forage) I think it would work just fine. I don't think that you have to fish frogs in the slop, I believe they are mainly used for that because they are the best tool for that specific purpose, but there are other tools for fishing open water, but ling story short, I don't see a reason why not. Quote
BigSkyBasser Posted June 2, 2015 Author Posted June 2, 2015 I would think if you matched the colors to those of what the Bass are feeding on (like a Bronzeye Shad or whatever color matches your local forage) I think it would work just fine. I don't think that you have to fish frogs in the slop, I believe they are mainly used for that because they are the best tool for that specific purpose, but there are other tools for fishing open water, but ling story short, I don't see a reason why not. I figured as much but I was curious if anyone had tried such. I've used poppers and stick baits that kill out there. Quote
Ads7633 Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 They definitely work in open water too, especially if you can drag them over submerged cover. Quote
Super User everythingthatswims Posted June 3, 2015 Super User Posted June 3, 2015 I don't get as many bites on frogs in open water as I do other surface baits like a spook, popper, buzzbait, or weightless fluke. Fish just don't commit to the frog as much for me, lots of short strikes and blow ups that don't connect. When I do fish a frog in open water it is because it combines the excitement of a blow up with the excitement of putting the screws to a fish on the hookset 1 Quote
Super User eyedabassman Posted June 3, 2015 Super User Posted June 3, 2015 You can fish a frog in open water!!!!!!!! When I was a guide I took people on deep weed lines to fish frogs. And now that I am on Table Rock Lake I fish them in some deep water around wood! They are not just for slop! Any where you fish a spook,buzzbait,you can fish a frog! 2 Quote
papajoe222 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Try a Picasso Shad Walker in open water. I thought the topic was open water froggin? I'm confused. Quote
wisconsin heat Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 I thought the topic was open water froggin? I'm confused. Its a hollow belly, many people would refer to it, myself included, as a "frog" . Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted June 3, 2015 Global Moderator Posted June 3, 2015 Spro Bronzeye shad works great in open water or heavy vegetation. We don't have much thick grass either so it's one of my favorites. Quote
greentrout Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 I once fished with a gentleman who walked the dog with the frog in open water. He caught 'em. I never was very good at it. I use the Spook. The old school basser... Quote
BooyahMan Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Most definitely. If you can walk a frog and they're taking topwaters, should equal some quality blow-ups. Its a hollow belly, many people would refer to it, myself included, as a "frog" . That's not a frog, that's a fish! Quote
KayakBasser Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 You will get bites, but just curious as to why you wouldnt us a spook or popper.....I mean the only reason you use a frog is because its weedless, your going to be giving up action and hook up ratios for no reason. Just my opinion. 2 Quote
einscodek Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I dont see the point, in open water I'd want trebles.. 4 Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted June 4, 2015 Super User Posted June 4, 2015 You can fish a frog in open water!!!!!!!! When I was a guide I took people on deep weed lines to fish frogs. And now that I am on Table Rock Lake I fish them in some deep water around wood! They are not just for slop! Any where you fish a spook,buzzbait,you can fish a frog! This ^^^^^^ You will get bites, but just curious as to why you wouldnt us a spook or popper.....I mean the only reason you use a frog is because its weedless, your going to be giving up action and hook up ratios for no reason. Just my opinion. I don't find that to be the case at all, and I do a lot of open water frogging. It's far easier for a fish to throw a spook than a frog. And a frog draws more bites in open water, it's not something they see every day. If I am throwing topwater, 90% of the time it's a frog, open water or heavy cover. I dont see the point, in open water I'd want trebles.. Than don't do it. But it works and works well. 3 Quote
jtharris3 Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Its a hollow belly, many people would refer to it, myself included, as a "frog" . No offense but, that doesn't look like any frog that I've ever seen. Quote
BigSkyBasser Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 You will get bites, but just curious as to why you wouldnt us a spook or popper.....I mean the only reason you use a frog is because its weedless, your going to be giving up action and hook up ratios for no reason. Just my opinion. It's more a curiosity of other people's experience with it. I've always had more aggressive and explosive bites on frogs, mixed with smallies post spawn on rock ledges in open water sounds like a good time. If this were a tournament I would be throwing poppers and spooks and no doubt, but I have enough time to mess around with things like this, Quote
gobig Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 ww2farmer pretty much nailed it. I don't throw a frog 90% of the time but it can draw more strikes in open water lakes than a spook, popper or similar bait. I throw them in foothill lakes that have virtually no weeds with good success. Anyone who thinks a frog has no action does not know how to throw it. As far as hookup ratios go... when you get dialed it should be close to 90% as long as the fish is actually taking the frog. 2 Quote
doyle8218 Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Stanley Ribbit Strike King Rage Tail Toad Zoom Horny Toad Yamamoto Yama Frog They kill in open water. 1 Quote
Super User eyedabassman Posted June 5, 2015 Super User Posted June 5, 2015 If you guys think that the hook up on a frog in open water is a concern! Do this = Bend the frog hooks up and out a bit for better hook ups.I do this even if I fish the frog in slop ect. I too am on board with ww2Farmer! I can walk the dog with a spook or a frog!!!!!!!!!! Quote
frogflogger Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 caught lots of bass in open water on frogs - usually average better size than other options (spook excepted) can't throw the hooks as easily as they do trebles. 2 Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted June 5, 2015 Super User Posted June 5, 2015 I might use a popping one if in open water. But then I'd probably just use a popper or Torpedo and get more bites. Our local public lake has stained water, thus the grass doesn't grow more than about 2' deep. That severely limits the frog to late May/early June. I've tried it in open water, but the fish just don't seem to buy it. Not even the toads. Quote
frogflogger Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I rarely walk a frog even when I was fishing them over 200 days a year - never walked one as wide as a spook but there have been many days when it outfished the spook in open water - of course the spook has had many days it beat the frog. I wasn't talking about hookset success rather I was saying once hooked on a frog they seldom throw it - which they can and do with a spook. Quote
BigSkyBasser Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 If you guys think that the hook up on a frog in open water is a concern! Do this = Bend the frog hooks up and out a bit for better hook ups.I do this even if I fish the frog in slop ect. I too am on board with ww2Farmer! I can walk the dog with a spook or a frog!!!!!!!!!! Several companies also sell trailer hooks for frogs to increase hookups on short biting bass! I'm for sure trying this once the days get a little longer and warmer. Haven't seen much for a topwater bite quite yet. Quote
dumfish Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 If frogging in open water is a confidence problem. When frogging season is about, I will through the frog on the bank and hop it off. I will do this fishing from a boat or the bank. Quote
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