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  • Super User
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Wouldn't work for me except in a few select spots.

 

The bottom is rarely clean & that rig would come up tripled in size Every Cast . . . .

 

A-Jay

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never used them. My buddy likes the weighed gama hooks for deep presentations 

  • Super User
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If I'm gonna have to weight a wacky rigged worm in order to get it down, it defeats the purpose and isn't worth the trouble for me. At that point, I'd just go with another presentation like a drop shot.

  • Like 2
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It looks like a good weight, but I don't think I'd use it for wacky rigging. Maybe an upside down texas rig kind of approach....

  • Super User
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I don't use them, I just prefer a wacky jig head............BUT..............LOL at the "experts" who don't understand the merits of a weighed wacky presentation.

  • Like 4
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I have personally never even seen this weight before.

 

I just thought it was interesting looking.

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If I want to use a weight I've just used a regular jig head.  I don't really see the purpose in having super specialized wacky rig weights.  

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  • Super User
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Fish in my profile pic is on a weighted wacky worm using one of those weights. They're made out of Tungsten so the profile is fairly small.

  • Super User
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I bought 1 pack of them a while ago when I saw it on sale.  You poke the weight through the worm and then thread the hook through that slot at the top of the weight.  The slot ends up in the middle of the senko.

 

What I found was that the senko tore up way more using this setup.  I have moved on to a weighted wacky hook.  The VMC ... 1/16 to 1/8 mainly.

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I bought 1 pack of them a while ago when I saw it on sale.  You poke the weight through the worm and then thread the hook through that slot at the top of the weight.  The slot ends up in the middle of the senko.

 

What I found was that the senko tore up way more using this setup.  I have moved on to a weighted wacky hook.  The VMC ... 1/16 to 1/8 mainly.

 

It doesn't look like you're supposed to poke the weight through the worm. I am sure that would really tear them up real quick. The worm looks like it is supposed to sit on the weight, held in place by the pegs, and then only the eye of the weight should be put through the worm and then you put your hook through that eye sticking out of the worm. Just my impression from looking at them and reading the description, I have not ever seen or used them. I have only used a wacky jig for weighted presentations. I prefer fishing a wacky rig weightless, and have not put much time in with the wacky jigs.

  • Super User
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It doesn't look like you're supposed to poke the weight through the worm. I am sure that would really tear them up real quick. The worm looks like it is supposed to sit on the weight, held in place by the pegs, and then only the eye of the weight should be put through the worm and then you put your hook through that eye sticking out of the worm. Just my impression from looking at them and reading the description, I have not ever seen or used them. I have only used a wacky jig for weighted presentations. I prefer fishing a wacky rig weightless, and have not put much time in with the wacky jigs.

That's exactly what he said.

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That's exactly what he said.

He said poke the weight through the worm, I said do not poke the weight through the worm, different?

 

Maybe just confusion in general on how exactly it is supposed to work. I think the eye is supposed to be in the middle of the senko and then you hook it through the senko and eye, which seem like maybe it should save some wear and tear on the worm. However, I was thinking the worm sat on top of the weight and the eye actually went all the way through it and then you hooked just the eye of the weight, and not through the senko. Hope this explains my confused thought process. 

  • Super User
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I don't think that system would be any better than what I use.  I think that it would put unnecessary holes in your senko, or whatever other bait you were wacky rigging.  I use 0-rings to attach the hook to the bait.  I imagine that those weights would work best if they were used on some wear resistant, stretchy,  elas-tech version of a senko or a worm.  You wouldn't worry about that little hole tearing up your bait at all.   If I want to adjust fall rate on wacky rigs, I use a different weight of hook.  Primarily I use Falcon weighted K-wacky hooks.   I start at 1/16 but I have heavier and lighter ones as well.   I've thought about fine tuning weights even further by using sticky lead tape, suspend dots, stuff like that.   Haven't gotten around to experimenting with that though.  

 

The other way to adjust fall rate on a wacky rig is to switch line sizes.  The past few years, first choice in line has been 15 lb Abrazx.  Maybe drop down to 10.    This year I've gone to MH spinning gear - 14 lb Fireline and a shortish 20 lb fluorocarbon leader.   I like the way the Fireline Crystal works as a strike indicator when you let the bait fall on a slack line.    Wacky rig presentation is always a work in progress, nothing is set in stone, but that's my current approach.

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Anyone think that weight would work as a punch weight using a craw or creature plastic? I know they make weights specifically for that "reverse hooked" punching, but I can never find them, or know what you call them.

  • Super User
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You push the eye into the worm and then put the hook through the eye. It doesn't come completely out of the worm, but it's somewhat close. The two metal tabs stick into the bottom of the worm. They work fine, and I haven't noticed any worms being any more torn up than sticking a hook through the middle. They work well for when you need the little faster fall that's sometimes preferred by the fish.

  • Super User
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It doesn't look like you're supposed to poke the weight through the worm. I am sure that would really tear them up real quick. The worm looks like it is supposed to sit on the weight, held in place by the pegs, and then only the eye of the weight should be put through the worm and then you put your hook through that eye sticking out of the worm. Just my impression from looking at them and reading the description, I have not ever seen or used them. I have only used a wacky jig for weighted presentations. I prefer fishing a wacky rig weightless, and have not put much time in with the wacky jigs.

I misspoke ... this is what I did. the eye of the weight into the worm. Not the whole thing. my mistake.

  • Super User
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Seen them - never used them. I use the tungsten jigheads for additional weight, with or without small fiber weed guards.

 

-T9

 

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I've been looking for ways to fish the wacky rig weighted because fish always seem to be ready to eat any worm I put a hook in the middle of. I personally have had much luck with these weights. I use them as light punch weights. The little eyelet at the top is meant to be held by the hook. I like to use on a craw with an offset hook, I keep the claws up so as it falls into heavy cover the claws shake.

Jackall sasuteki craw 4"

Gamakatsu Size 5 offset

And the largest size of those weights can't remember the name.

You can work this kind like a jig in front of any cover. Keeping the line tight helps because it makes the craw look like he's getting ready to defend himself from a predator which could cause a strike. I have had a little luck with lure in spring will try more in summer.

Picture posted below.

If you trying to fish weighted wacky rig I would suggest the Neko rig. All you do is wacky rig the worm then insert a nail weight into the head.

if this link doesn't work you can just look up neko rig first video link.

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  • Super User
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People who are doubting a weighted wacky rig should check out some of the info on them from the pro's at places like the Tennessee River chain where they are ledge fishing.

  • Like 1
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If I need to add weight to a wacky rig I use some solder cut into small pieces and inserted in the middle of the bait then run my hook under it.

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Looks like a neat idea.  The Lake Fork brand weighted wacky system is pretty interesting too, with a weighted ring that goes around the worm.  The ring has hook slots for the included hook.

 

I tried some Owner brand weighted wacky hooks this weekend and have to say I didn't really like them.  The jig heads have a 90* eye on them and I spent as much time pulling weeds off them as I did fishing.  I'll try something with a sleeker head/eye design next time.

 

Tight lines,

Bob

  • Global Moderator
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I have 2 packs of them but only used them once and the fish weren't interesting in a wacky rig that day. It made the worm sink like it's supposed to so I guess it works right. 

  • Super User
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for weighted wacky hooks, i picked up some jackall 1/16 oz ball head with weedguard a while back and really like them.  makes it a lot easier to fish the senko in deeper water and in wind.

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