Trd's In Stock Anywhere?

[Smokinal]

I see them sold out everywhere. Anyone finding them? (anyone who doesn't want them that is...)

[aceman387]

I prefer the Strike king zero worms which are made z-man and readily available at bass pro shops.

[lectricbassman]

Tried the zero worms today and they performed as well as the zinkerz. At bps they are about a dollar cheaper than the zman zinkerz and they had more colors to chose from.

[Senko lover]

TW has some colors, at least they did yesterday. And they also have the VMC mushroom heads in stock, which would work for the other half. 

[ChrisD46]

Nothing against a TRD but as others indicate - cut a Zero or ZinkerZ in half and have at it .

Don't use a VMC Half Moon jig head (too big) and there are better options than the Outcast jig head as well ... Use either a ZMan ShroomZ 1/15th , 1/10th Finesse jighead OR for even more fun - go search the web for the following topics :

 

* Ned Rig Jig Size

* Ned Rig Jig Hook Size

* Ned Rig Set Up

* Ned Kehde

* Ned Rig Tactics

* ZinkerZ 2.5 inch

* Mid West Finesse Jig Set Up

* Mid West Finesse Tactics

* Finesse News Network

 

We expect you to report back around Nov. ~ Dec. time frame with an update

[Crankinstein]

If anyone is picking up Ned rig supplies I would def recommend getting plenty of jig heads. The small hooks bend easy and the hook points can dull. The TRDs actually outlast the jig heads. The plastic is incredibly strong.

[Bluebasser86]

If anyone is picking up Ned rig supplies I would def recommend getting plenty of jig heads. The small hooks bend easy and the hook points can dull. The TRDs actually outlast the jig heads. The plastic is incredibly strong.

Buy better jigheads or use lighter line/rods. I rarely bend a hook and have never had one dull. The only time I see it happen is when someone is setting the hook like they're flipping mats or using too stout of a rod. 

[Crankinstein]

Ive been using the shroomz jig heads and the bending and dulling is due to snags. I have a very light hook set and I use my drop shot combo, you can see it in action my Ned rig video on YouTube just search "Ned rig 101" and you'll see my vid. Fishing any rig with an open hook is gonna lead to a tree bass once in awhile and that's when problems can occur. I think we've all been guilty of getting frustrated with a snag and just started yanking on the line and that's just something you can't do with this rig. Your not gonna tow in any trees with 6lb flouro!

[CWB]

Like others have said, use the Strike King Zero's or Z- Man Zinkers. Same thing. 2 for one.

BB is right on with the jigheads. Lighter line, loosen drag or backreel, and lighter action rod. Any hookpoint can dull if you hit a rock or dock post.

[Choporoz]

I'm confused.....this from TW description of SK Zero:

 

"The Strike King Zero is impregnated with a ton of salt so it will sink quickly like the other Senko Style baits. But the Zero has one major advantage over any other stick bait, it is made with Strike King's revolutionary 3X plastics making it extremely durable."

 

I thought the bigger benefit of ElazTech for Ned Rig (other than durability) was they float and that the floating action up from a mushroom head was what makes them different.....than say a senko or other stick worm.

[Brett Strohl]

I'm confused.....this from TW description of SK Zero:

 

"The Strike King Zero is impregnated with a ton of salt so it will sink quickly like the other Senko Style baits. But the Zero has one major advantage over any other stick bait, it is made with Strike King's revolutionary 3X plastics making it extremely durable."

 

I thought the bigger benefit of ElazTech for Ned Rig (other than durability) was they float and that the floating action up from a mushroom head was what makes them different.....than say a senko or other stick worm.

 

I was confused about this also when I went and read the product description of zeros... O_o

[frogflogger]

stretch them out and fish them - the longer you fish them the better they get as the salt leaves they float higher

[Brett Strohl]

Tackle warehouse has a bunch of different kinds of trds,  I think i'm going to have to break down and try some after I get my next check >_<

[Team9nine]

I'm confused.....this from TW description of SK Zero:

 

"The Strike King Zero is impregnated with a ton of salt so it will sink quickly like the other Senko Style baits. But the Zero has one major advantage over any other stick bait, it is made with Strike King's revolutionary 3X plastics making it extremely durable."

 

I thought the bigger benefit of ElazTech for Ned Rig (other than durability) was they float and that the floating action up from a mushroom head was what makes them different.....than say a senko or other stick worm.

 

Zeros and ZinkerZ are basically identical. When new, the additional salt makes them both sink. As the salt dissolves, they then start floating due to the nature of the plastic. On the benefits, IMHO, I think everyone playing up this vertical standing/floating bit is a little oversold. The longevity is a biggie though. I'm averaging about 64 bass per bait. That works out to about 500 bass per 8-pack of TRDs. That's a big cost saver. The buoyancy is important, but more from the standpoint of creating the no feel retrieve, along with minimizing hangups with the open hook, not from a sit on the bottom perspective. Consider it the near equivalent of fishing a suspending jerkbait. Deep, clear water, open rock/gravel bank guys might have an argument in this regard, but for those of us that follow the original shallow water presentation approach, standing up at rest is much further down the list of attributes. Can't say I've ever seen where Ned himself has written about this phenomenon being a big deal. It's been a more recent thing since some newcomers to the technique started using GoPro cameras to document the bait differences.

 

-T9

[Choporoz]

Well, it may be a perception thing, but I gotta think that TRD's are sold out all over because people think they'll catch fish better -- not because they last.   Seems a lot of people here (me included) don't much care what the cost per fish is...if we're confident they'll catch fish.....so it must be the action...or buoyancy...or ...???? at least as we perceive it to be. 

[Brett Strohl]

The video from bass resource that I saw made it sound like it was the fact that it stood straight up on the bottom and hopped around like a feeder fish that induced strikes.  I'm really confused about what it is about this particular set up that is supposedly getting people 25+ fish an hour?   It just looks like a jig with half of a senko on it, I have no earthly understanding about why this lure is supposed to be so enticing  

[hoosierbass07]

 For some reason around here (Terre Haute IN area) none of the stores I shop at carry Z-Man products anymore.  The one Walmart I shop at doesn't, the three super Walmart's don't, and the Gander Mountain does not carry Z-Man.  I know some carried them a few years ago because I have two or three packs of Z-Man products I bought around here.  It's ticking me off.  Hopefully the new Meijers store or Academy they are building will carry Z-Man.  

[Team9nine]

Well, it may be a perception thing, but I gotta think that TRD's are sold out all over because people think they'll catch fish better -- not because they last.   Seems a lot of people here (me included) don't much care what the cost per fish is...if we're confident they'll catch fish.....so it must be the action...or buoyancy...or ...???? at least as we perceive it to be. 

 

You are absolutely right, people are buying them because they think or have heard that the bait catches fish - lots of them. Everybody wants the "magic" lure. It's what the entire industry is based upon. But this is also the problem, because people don't take the time to research the history behind the bait/tactic. One of Ned's two basic premises behind Midwest Finesse is that the baits and all related equipment should be frugal, and the other being that you try and catch 101 bass in 4 hours (25/hr). The Elaztech baits help in both regards, which is why Ned started using them. Remember, Ned doesn't only use Elaztech baits, and there was a time when it wasn't around or available.

 

The video from bass resource that I saw made it sound like it was the fact that it stood straight up on the bottom and hopped around like a feeder fish that induced strikes.  I'm really confused about what it is about this particular set up that is supposedly getting people 25+ fish an hour?   It just looks like a jig with half of a senko on it, I have no earthly understanding about why this lure is supposed to be so enticing

 

LOL - the 25 fish per hour is simply one of the two goals or premises behind Midwest Finesse fishing. Ned only reaches the goal a few times a year, and some years he doesn't ever reach it. Again, this is where everyone focusing on the bait and not the method or mindset behind it that causes all this confusion - that and people who are more recent converts to the system with GoPro cameras Everybody wants to be able to explain what's going on and why it works, but the jigworm has been around for nearly 50 years. If all anyone reads is the headlines, then everyone will miss the details, and people can/will make up their own storyline.

 

-T9

[Brett Strohl]

I would be more than thrilled to find a lure that caught me 3 fish an hour.  If this is something that can do it I'm more than willing to give it a shot, I just don't understand how it works.  The video says the way elaztech presents to fish is more convincing than just a jig and senko.  

[Team9nine]

I would be more than thrilled to find a lure that caught me 3 fish an hour.  If this is something that can do it I'm more than willing to give it a shot, I just don't understand how it works.  The video says the way elaztech presents to fish is more convincing than just a jig and senko.  

 

Give it a shot. It can do it, but don't worry about the "how it works" part, focus instead on the "where and when" it works (best waters and parts of waters). Remember, there are non-Elaztech plastics used as part of the system, so don't get so hung up with that aspect. Learn the basic retrieves and shapes. Last time I tracked it a couple years ago, my catch rate averaged 12.2 bass/hour over the entire season. My three best trips ran over 20 fish per hour, and I did achieve the 102 bass milestone on one trip, though it took 4 hrs and 45 mins. to accomplish instead of the targeted 4 hrs.

 

-T9

[Brett Strohl]

I'll try it but I wish I had a better idea as to which type and color of plastic to get  The youtube videos I saw on different retrieves didn't seem too complicated though. 

[Team9nine]

I'll try it but I wish I had a better idea as to which type and color of plastic to get  The youtube videos I saw on different retrieves didn't seem too complicated though. 

 

Standard bassin' colors for your waters, just like any other soft plastic bait. When in doubt, buy green pumpkin or junebug Hard to go wrong with either. See if this link helps you out a bit: http://www.in-fisherman.com/midwest-finesse/midwest-finesse-lures/

 

-T9

[Smokinal]

 I just don't understand how it works.  .  

It just does....

[Felix77]

Wow ... this NED rig is really picking up.  I placed my order at TWC this past week and 90% of the items were out of stock.  They sell TRD's and the Shroom heads at Cabelas if you are fortunate to be near one.  I picked up a few colors just this past weekend.