Tennis-Fishing Elbow?

[the reel ess]

I have a sore shoulder from sitting with my arm forward and hand on a mouse 8 hrs/day min. Casting inflames it as does washing a car. It will be sore the next day after casting and retrieving a lot. I try to use some techniques that don't require power fishing all day. Lobbing a wacky rig under overhanging trees helps. Pitching from a casting deck helps the shoulder but hurts the wrist. Casting a light t-rig and slowly hopping it back is a good compromise.

[BassinLou]

I have a sore shoulder from sitting with my arm forward and hand on a mouse 8 hrs/day min. Casting inflames it as does washing a car. It will be sore the next day after casting and retrieving a lot. I try to use some techniques that don't require power fishing all day. Lobbing a wacky rig under overhanging trees helps. Pitching from a casting deck helps the shoulder but hurts the wrist. Casting a light t-rig and slowly hopping it back is a good compromise.

 

A constant sore shoulder can possibly be tendonitis as well. Of what muscle group depends on where the the discomfort is originating from. The shoulder is the most complex of all the joints. I would recommend suspend fishing for a while and apply ice and rest for several days to up to a week. If the problem persists you may have to take it a step further. I also had tendonitis in my shoulder years ago. I did aggressive physical therapy for it and fortunately over came the issue. Best of luck. 

[the reel ess]

A constant sore shoulder can possibly be tendonitis as well. Of what muscle group depends on where the the discomfort is originating from. The shoulder is the most complex of all the joints. I would recommend suspend fishing for a while and apply ice and rest for several days to up to a week. If the problem persists you may have to take it a step further. I also had tendonitis in my shoulder years ago. I did aggressive physical therapy for it and fortunately over came the issue. Best of luck. 

I have consulted an orthopedic about it. He says it's the muscle getting irritated by being moved over the same bone all day, 5 days a week. He said if you've ever cleaned a squirrel and seen that "sheen" coating on the muscle, that is what's irritated. He says the exercises like paddling a kayak and casting are good for it. If I did other activities enough I'd break up the irritated spot. But pretty much any exercise involving that muscle leaves it sore. So does a professional massage.

 

The wife just had knee surgery and I'll be her nurse for 3-4 weeks. So fishing or washing cars won't be an issue. But I work from home so there's still that. 

[BassinLou]

I have consulted an orthopedic about it. He says it's the muscle getting irritated by being moved over the same bone all day, 5 days a week. He said if you've ever cleaned a squirrel and seen that "sheen" coating on the muscle, that is what's irritated. He says the exercises like paddling a kayak and casting are good for it. If I did other activities enough I'd break up the irritated spot. But pretty much any exercise involving that muscle leaves it sore. So does a professional massage.

 

The wife just had knee surgery and I'll be her nurse for 3-4 weeks. So fishing or washing cars won't be an issue. But I work from home so there's still that. 

 

What the orthopedic defined to you is tendonitis. That's what it basically means. Consistent and repetitive movements on one or more planes over long periods of time. Tendons are connected at the end of muscles. Although a professional massage may be extremely uncomfortable, it will help break up the tissue and cause a healing response. I know it sounds counter productive however its a very common and effective practice among massage and physical therapists. It worked for my shoulder and my elbow. Didn't look forward to it, but it worked wonders. Best of luck. Another thing that might help is to use your non-dominant hand for while when using the mouse on the computer.  

[Trek]

   It's the most basic solution you can do. Workout and stretch daily. Building muscle around your joints will help support them. Not working out makes your joints do all the work. Doctors love to give meds and replace joints. Find yourself a trainer that will teach you what you need to do to live a better life and just do it. Many will spend thousands on a boat but won't send a thousand on there health and well being. To me that doesn't make sense. The older you get the worse it will get so start while your younger.

[BassinLou]

   It's the most basic solution you can do. Workout and stretch daily. Building muscle around your joints will help support them. Not working out makes your joints do all the work. Doctors love to give meds and replace joints. Find yourself a trainer that will teach you what you need to do to live a better life and just do it. Many will spend thousands on a boat but won't send a thousand on there health and well being. To me that doesn't make sense. The older you get the worse it will get so start while your younger.

 

A well balanced strength and conditioning program is ideal, I agree with you. After the pain and inflammation subsides some basic strength training will help tremendously. 

[dead end canal]

If the little compression band isn't doing it for you any more and you're starting to feel like surgery is your next step, google "Kelly Starrett voodoo floss elbow" and check the videos out on youtube.

 

Here's one to start you off:

 

https://youtu.be/0dgbCDtqdlI

 

There's also a tool called an ArmAid that's basically a big nutcracker that allows you to release the adhesions of the muscles involved.

 

http://www.armaid.com/page/2-602/tennis-elbow

[Trek]

A well balanced strength and conditioning program is ideal, I agree with you. After the pain and inflammation subsides some basic strength training will help tremendously. 

 

  How about do it before hand, why wait till you have an injury ? I rode 62 miles on my bicycle yesterday with a guy that was 69. One that was 62 and two ladies that were in there late 50's. If you did it all your life you won't loose it when you get older.

[Sam]

According to my family doctor the answer to your query is "yes."

 

He told me that any repetitive activity over a number of hours or with high velocity strain can lead to painful elbows.

 

But since the rewards are so great I take two Aleve and keep on trucking as it is worth the pain to go bass fishing.

 

P.S.  He says to take Aleve and rest the elbow for a week.  Yea. Right.  A week. Get real.

[BassinLou]

  How about do it before hand, why wait till you have an injury ? I rode 62 miles on my bicycle yesterday with a guy that was 69. One that was 62 and two ladies that were in there late 50's. If you did it all your life you won't loose it when you get older.

 

Once again, you are correct. The benefits of a sound strength and conditioning program has and will work wonders for those that choose to adopt the lifestyle. I am very familiar with these individuals because I work with them everyday. I have been and am currently in the strength and conditioning industry. Have been for over 20 yrs. So I whole heartedly agree that strength training will help, but, even those that workout often, still get hurt. As far as this thread goes, we are just trying to offer helpful advice to those that are currently effected with this injury. Speaking about the benefits of weight training is helpful and at this stage of the injury process not the most ideal. They have to get the inflammation under control first by seeking help from those individuals in the physical therapy arenas than begin a strength training program that can further hurt them if not approached and taught correctly. 

[BassinLou]

According to my family doctor the answer to your query is "yes."

 

He told me that any repetitive activity over a number of hours or with high velocity strain can lead to painful elbows.

 

But since the rewards are so great I take two Aleve and keep on trucking as it is worth the pain to go bass fishing.

 

P.S.  He says to take Aleve and rest the elbow for a week.  Yea. Right.  A week. Get real.

 

Taking high dosages of Alleve (Naproxen) over a long period of time can/will lead to kidney issues. If an someone has to take a anti-inflammatory on a daily basis to seek relief. There is a significant underlying problem that has to be dealt with head on and not in the form of a pill. 

[PotterSims]

Thanks, everybody. These are great suggestions. I am using several of them!

[BassinLou]

Thanks, everybody. These are great suggestions. I am using several of them!

Good luck!! Keep us posted on your progress.