Jackall Giron

[Big C]

 Glidebaits vs. Swimbaits could be a topic for another day.

 

 

I totally see your point, and (to a degree) agree with you.

But, glidebaits are swimbaits just a sub-category of them.

When you boil it all down we're just a bunch of nerds arguing about fishing lures. 

[hatrix]

It has always been a glide bait Big C. It just doesn't really do it well. As for it turning into something other then why OP asked about. It still contained info about how it performs and what people thought. It did sorta turn into a side dicission about other stuff but it happens. Those posts still contain info that might be appealing to someone. It's not as if it was a discussion about what was or dinner.

[primetime]

Everyone has their favorites and all my point was to offer suggestions of lures that may fit the bill better for $20, and I have never called it a bad bait, I just don't think it should be sold and marketed as a glide bait when it walks and really does not glide. I purchased mine when they first came out and swimbaits were new to me and when I think of a glide bait I think of Glide baits like the River 2 sea wide glide and was not aware that they were making glides in small sizes. I don't know about sanding them or whatever someone said fixes them  but I am sure I like a bunch of lures other people think are junk but whatever...

 

The Giron really doesn't swim, it walks but when it comes to reviews, I challenge you to find bad reviews on expensive lures, it never happens except for a few people just trying to make a point. I know they are a quality lure but for the times I have tried them they have not produced for me, yet I do much better on other lures that are very similar...If you want to get really technical, the industry is moving in a direction to make one piece glides better seller's in the bass market since Musky and pike angler's have always done well with bass with the huge glides they throw and now Strike Pro and other Japanese high end companies are offering 1 piece bluegill colored and shaped glide baits that do one thing and that is glide....To me personally, trying to swim a giron is like swimming an S waver and it just doesn't swim well, I am sure I would like the new Ganteral much better as it looks fluid in the water and like all Jackall baits the finish on it is awesome and realistic. I just don't like getting bit off by gar with $40 lures and I don't have the money to spend or fish with a $40 lure, I would probably use wire because at that point it is not worth it for me, but if I made more money I am sure I would have lots of expensive lures because I have impulses to buy things I can't afford.

 

Not sure why people take it personal if you don't like a lure that they like. If you like the Giron for $20 and feel it is a good value, enjoy fishing it, then who cares what people say as you load the boat with fish....People ask for opinions all the time about lures and when someone suggests options to look at or things to try I look up the lure and I have found some winners by getting suggestions from other members which was a good thing. If you don't want to know other people's opinions than why read lure reviews anyway? Most people catch a 5 lber first cast anyway.

[CWB]

Trust me, there was nothing personal taken, just that this was turned into a discussion about glide vs swimbaits, not "I like the Giron because ___" or "I don't like the Giron because ___, maybe check out XXX bait". Big C had it right and like I said about a Corvette being a car but not a Ford but a Ford is still a car. Glidebait should probably be a sub-category of Swimbait like listed on T.W.'s site. Yes, nerds we all are. Too much time and $$$ to spend on this kind of stuff.

Let's put this to bed and get on to something else.

[hatrix]

I want to say my posts were all kind of about how I don't like the giron. I think you would be better off spending your money elsewhere. Or just saving it for something better.