Best Line For....

[TBO]

 what line do you all use for 1-3 oz hard jointed  swimbaits?   i just picked up a abu garcia silvermax-L2 from dicks sporting goods. (hoping its better than the bass pro tourney special)

 

 

i bought 12lb flouro clear to spool it with.  not sure if i should put a few yards of braid backer and use 100 yds off floro or just use 50 ft of floro.   any suggestions?  

 

my complete setup is an abu garcia vengence M 6' 6" with an

 

http://www.abugarcia.com/Abu-Garcia%C2%AE-Vengeance%C2%AE-Casting-Rod/1365011,default,pd.html#q=vengeance&start=1

 

abu garcia silvermax-L2

http://www.abugarcia.com/Abu-Garcia%C2%AE-Silver-Max-Low-Profile/1285321,default,pd.html

 

and clear 12lb florocarbon 

http://www.***.com/Sufix_Invisiline_Castable_Fluorocarbon/descpage-SCF.html

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Do you mean 1/3 oz?

[Dwight Hottle]

Yes if you mean 1-3 oz baits you should be using 20-25 lb mono.

[TBO]

Do you mean 1/3 oz?

1 to 3 oz baits  sorry

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1 to 3 oz baits  sorry

 

Forgive me, but is this a joke? Nevermind the line- you plan to fish a 3 oz bait on a medium power six and a half footer with a graphite framed reel?

[TBO]

Forgive me, but is this a joke? Nevermind the line- you plan to fish a 3 oz bait on a medium power six and a half footer with a graphite framed reel?

 yes that comment was a joke.    

 

 i had the rod previously and im trying to make use of it,  i fish from a canoe so i dont need anything bigger.   im a complete noob to swimbaits and baitcasters hence why i am here asking.   i posted all that so you all knew exactly what im using in hopes some of you would correct me and steer me in the right direction.   

[FloridaBasser1]

Do you mean 1/3 oz?

LOL ~ He must have, some just have no clue 

[FloridaBasser1]

 yes that comment was a joke.    

 

 i had the rod previously and im trying to make use of it,  i fish from a canoe so i dont need anything bigger.   im a complete noob to swimbaits and baitcasters hence why i am here asking.   i posted all that so you all knew exactly what im using in hopes some of you would correct me and steer me in the right direction.   

But hey, I'd be doing the same thing ~for the fun of it~ actually i think i'm going to get a light setup and try it! It'll be fun, but hard! just better pray i don't get snagged- and don't worry about us joking around, we just having some fun. Best laugh with us!

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TBO, what other combos do you have? Any heavy cranking/ frogging/ flipping setups?

[FloridaBasser1]

A good cranking set up would work well

[TBO]

TBO, what other combos do you have? Any heavy cranking/ frogging/ flipping setups?

 

 

 i got a MH 7   flueger 5.2.1

M 6 6  with an abu stx20 5.1.1

both are spinning gear

[FloridaBasser1]

Heck Give it a try! in my my opinion, stick with the bait casting combo and spool with 40-50# braid, and tie about a 5 yard stretch of 25 pound fluro leader, if you don't know how to tie a leader not just look it up. But this is your best bet, Just give plenty of Fluro leader material!

[einscodek]

Yer askin to lose those lures using 12 lb fluoro..

50# braid at the least for 3oz baits

if yer going leader for 3oz baits I'd go higher than 25 lb fluoro or stick to mono leader and make sure you know how to tie a proper leader knot else it dont matter what the line ratings are..

[FloridaBasser1]

Yer askin to lose those lures using 12 lb fluoro..

Like i suggested, 50# braid, 25# fluoro leader, his best bet!

[Jon G]

You do not have the right equipment. You need to have heavy duty equipment big rods, big reels, big line, big hooks etc.

[Jon G]

Like i suggested, 50# braid, 25# fluoro leader, his best bet!

you are going to loose a lot of baits with 50lb braid as well. There is no stretch in braid and very little in fluoro if you backlash there is no stretch to "give" so big baits will snap off.

[FloridaBasser1]

you are going to loose a lot of baits with 50lb braid as well. There is no stretch in braid and very little in fluoro if you backlash there is no stretch to "give" so big baits will snap off.

Well heck! I'm not going to tell him to use 100# braid on that little bitty set up! He already made it clear that he was going to use that rod and reel for the job so i gave him the best option i knew of for that little of a setup. Now if he was using a more proper set up like a Shimano Cardiff paired with a G.Loomis swimbait rod, ya i woulld spool it with 20 - 30 pound fluoro, or maybe even 60-70 pound braid. But he's got what he's got!

[einscodek]

Like i suggested, 50# braid, 25# fluoro leader, his best bet!

I use 25# tatsu fluoro lead on my 1oz baits and even then over time I've had theym break off at the knot (not unravel .. break) .. imo fluoro just cant handle the shock over time as its stretch has irreversibilities.

[FloridaBasser1]

Just say'in

[FloridaBasser1]

I use 25# tatsu fluoro lead on my 1oz baits and even then over time I've had theym break off at the knot (not unravel .. break) .. imo fluoro just cant handle the shock over time as its stretch has irreversibilities.

Try mono, it's more absorbent due to the stretch, and will take more pressure off of the knot... just off the top of my head idea/suggestion- havn't heard of that issue before.

[Jon G]

Well heck! I'm not going to tell him to use 100# braid on that little bitty set up! He already made it clear that he was going to use that rod and reel for the job so i gave him the best option i knew of for that little of a setup. Now if he was using a more proper set up like a Shimano Cardiff paired with a G.Loomis swimbait rod, ya i woulld spool it with 20 - 30 pound fluoro, or maybe even 60-70 pound braid. But he's got what he's got!

The thing is he does not have the proper equipment. A 6'6 medium rod and a small reel like a silvermax can't handle a 1-3 oz bait. With this equipment he is going to have trouble casting the bait, getting a hookset, and would probablly result in his equipment getting damaged. The issue is not the line its the equipment in general and using the correct tools for the right job.

 

You aren't going to screw in a nail with a hammer....

[FloridaBasser1]

The thing is he does not have the proper equipment. A 6'6 medium rod and a small reel like a silvermax can't handle a 1-3 oz bait. With this equipment he is going to have trouble casting the bait, getting a hookset, and would probablly result in his equipment getting damaged. The issue is not the line its the equipment in general and using the correct tools for the right job.

 

You aren't going to screw in a nail with a hammer....

Exactly. Others tried to say it earlier to TBO but he said that's what it was going to be! Would i use this set up for swimbait fishing? No! A mater of fact, he'll probably brake the rod one way or another, or just loose his lures. Sorry if i seemed rude earlier, just didn't know how to put it in words as well as you did.

[primetime]

the Silver max is geared for flipping and it only holds like 120 yards of 12lb test, for a 3 ounce swimbait, you need a 300 size or what I am now using again which is the round baitcaster so I can fit a few hundred yards of 20 lb test or heavier, or go braid....I was able to get a deal on the Okuma Cedros round reel which is a great reel for inshore and also for long casts as I can cast it further than my low profiles on topwater's etc, but you can buy large or kind of large swimbaits that are in the 1 ounce range...

 

sebile magic swimmer 125mm-7/8  SPro 4" BBZ under an ounce, and you can find more, problem is when you start gong really big which you may not like so rig up the silver max with 15lb test instead of 12 and go for it....6'6" give you control from a kayak especially on wakes etc....I throw the BBZ 4" on an Okuma Serrano that is same size with 16lb triple fish camo line or Mono on same size rod and it does fine...Also toss 7" Red Fins, Super Spooks, and have flipped with over an ounce, it is ok, odds are you won't get a record fish on that set up.....you can make it work.

[primetime]

1 ounce is normal for a med heavy rod regardless of how long it is? standard is usually 1/4-1oz, you could put some 20 lb Mono or Copoly with same diameter as most compaies 14lb in some cases, but even 80 yards of Trilene 20lb test would be fine as long as you stay near an ounce...If you try to throw 3 ounces then that is just stupid.....Rod will snap on the cast and load a tad bit much....I would start small on lures and weight, but that reel is good with mono or braid, I avoid fluoro unless for leader, too much stretch all over for heavier lures, only like it for flipping in 25lb test short situations, and leader...Braid or copoly or mono....Triple Fish RX copoly 20 lb is same diameter as trilene 14lb and it tested at 19.8 after wet for 4hours better than most, plus it is fluoro coated and triple fish is an OEM so all lines are name brands.

[FloridaBasser1]

1 ounce is normal for a med heavy rod regardless of how long it is? standard is usually 1/4-1oz, you could put some 20 lb Mono or Copoly with same diameter as most compaies 14lb in some cases, but even 80 yards of Trilene 20lb test would be fine as long as you stay near an ounce...If you try to throw 3 ounces then that is just stupid.....Rod will snap on the cast and load a tad bit much....I would start small on lures and weight, but that reel is good with mono or braid, I avoid fluoro unless for leader, too much stretch all over for heavier lures, only like it for flipping in 25lb test short situations, and leader...Braid or copoly or mono....Triple Fish RX copoly 20 lb is same diameter as trilene 14lb and it tested at 19.8 after wet for 4hours better than most, plus it is fluoro coated and triple fish is an OEM so all lines are name brands.

I still say 40-50# braid with 25# fluoro leader

But your right with the possibility of throwith 1oz baits nothing bigger.