EvanT123 Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 Been reading about rod dynamics I guess you could call it. In your opinion what helps drive the hook home rod length or power. All things being equal. Quote
papajoe222 Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 I believe it's a combination of both. The more line you can move on the hookset, the better your chances of hooking up, but only if the rod has some backbone. then again, with a MH X-Fast rod, there isn't much give so it isn't necessary to move a lot of line as the power of the rod will drive the hook home. Quote
Ozark_Basser Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 Lots of variables, probably too many to make an accurate assumption, but I would assume a 6'6"H would set the hook better than a 7'MH. It seems like the extra stiffness would provide more force. The extra length of the 7' rod would pull the bait further and provide more acceleration, but it seems like the flex in the rod would compensate for it. Quote
John G Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 If length and power contribute to setting the hook then what accounts for setting the hook with a short light action rod like a Loomis CR721? Quote
Ozark_Basser Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 If length and power contribute to setting the hook then what accounts for setting the hook with a short light action rod like a Loomis CR721? Although that rod is kinda short and not as powerful as some rods, it still contributes in length and power, just to a lesser degree. It still has length to move line and power to help drive the hook. Quote
John G Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 Although that rod is kinda short and not as powerful as some rods, it still contributes in length and power, just to a lesser degree. It still has length to move line and power to help drive the hook. I do know that what you are saying is true but I sometimes wonder if the fish plays as big or almost as big a part in the hook set by hooking themselves. 1 Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted May 28, 2015 Super User Posted May 28, 2015 Length eats slack Power sets hooks 2 Quote
Hogsticker Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 It's really just a matter of using the right tool for the job. Hook and line used plays an equal factor. Quote
Super User Montanaro Posted May 28, 2015 Super User Posted May 28, 2015 Does length of hammer pound the nail or does your swing? Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted May 28, 2015 Super User Posted May 28, 2015 What Sets The Hook ? The Line ~ A-Jay 1 Quote
Fisher-O-men Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 Does length of hammer pound the nail or does your swing? Weight and balance combined with correct snap of the wrist. Just like the question at hand, many factors. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted May 28, 2015 Super User Posted May 28, 2015 Speed is the key. That is a function of rod length and technique. Power a natural result of these. 1 Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted May 28, 2015 Super User Posted May 28, 2015 If length and power contribute to setting the hook then what accounts for setting the hook with a short light action rod like a Loomis CR721? Your arms, the line and what's left of the rod's backbone after it loads up. Quote
tholmes Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 The first thing you need for a good hookset is a needle-sharp hook. Tom 1 Quote
pbizzle Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 In my opinion the motion of the hookset is the most important thing. I know that's a pretty cliche answer, but hear me out. It doesn't matter how long or what power your rod is, the hook won't set if you're not setting the hook the proper way for that technique. For example, you could have a great rod for fishing crankbaits, but it won't make a difference if you're just swinging for the fences everytime you get a bait. The same goes for flipping. A great flipping stick won't make a difference if you're just doing the light side arm swoop and reel like a crankbait. Once you have that down I think it's a combination of length, line, power, and taper. The length and action both affect the speed of the hoookset. A longer rod takes up more line than a shorter one. A fast or extra fast action rod will also set the hook a little quicker than a moderate action rod would, because they get down to the power of the rod quicker. You're line makes a big difference. If you had to of the same rods (one with braid and the other with mono or fluoro) and you delivered the same hookset with each, I can just about gaurantee the braid would set the hook faster because of the lack of stretch. Power also makes a big difference because the more backbone a rod has, the more energy that you can transfer to the end of you're line. That's what I think makes up a hookset. Quote
CDMeyer Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 That is a tough one! I would say both the tip (length) gives you the feel and helps with the swing of your rod. While the back bone keeps it from shaking away. Idk just my take on it Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted May 29, 2015 Super User Posted May 29, 2015 lenght power and a sharp hook thats the main ingrediant Quote
SDbassin Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 Also hooks are extremely important in hook sets, the thickness of the hook is a big part on hooking the fish. Thicker hooks have much more to go through, while skinnier hooks do not need to penetrate nearly as much fish on the same hook set. The problem is the strength of the hook to its thickness. I think the rod tip, backbone, line and hooks are what sets the hook, they all play a role. Quote
EvanT123 Posted May 29, 2015 Author Posted May 29, 2015 Also hooks are extremely important in hook sets, the thickness of the hook is a big part on hooking the fish. Thicker hooks have much more to go through, while skinnier hooks do not need to penetrate nearly as much fish on the same hook set. The problem is the strength of the hook to its thickness. I think the rod tip, backbone, line and hooks are what sets the hook, they all play a role. I think your correct here but I wouldn't say thicker hooks have more to go through but need more force to penetrate the fishes mouth which correlates to a heavier powered rod. I've been fishing a 6'6 light action rod with 1/0 light wire eagle claw jig hooks and have had no problems hooking fish. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted May 29, 2015 Super User Posted May 29, 2015 Picking 1 over the other I'd go with power. I'd pick timing as the the most important factor. 1 Quote
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