At A Loss...ideas?

[raoka]

I have been fishing a nearby pond about 60 some acres from shore. The fish appear to be postspawn. Been catching them pretty well on weightless senkos on the first break from shore. It appears the weeds are starting to grow at that edge and the fish are positioning there. My problem is that when I try other things, I get a lot of pond scum, the green slimy stuff. When I was fishing a spinnerbait it would catch on this stuff, Texas rig, etc...especially on the way back to me. Since I am not on a boat I cant cast parallel to the edge, so I have to go through the 20 feet from shore area full of this scum. Any ideas from those that bank fish  how you would target the fish and not deal with picking at the scum every other cast? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 

-Jeff

[scaleface]

Weightless worms are the only thing I use when having too fish snotty moss . I use an oversized heavy flipping style hook to help cast a little farther . The discontinued Riverside Top Gun slides over top of it pretty well. The new Yum Swurm might be the same thing .

[papajoe222]

If the scum is below the surface, you can opt for a topwater.  If there is enough space above the scum a Spook should put you back into fish, if not a hollow body frog. 

[raoka]

ill give topwater a try, the slimy green is on the bottom and kind of dispersed throughout the water column...so frustrating...trying to get away from the senko haha

[CRANKENSTIEN]

Dink. Under 12 "

Good. 1.75. Lbs

Quality. 2.5 lbs

Make my day a real good one. 4 plus.

If I caught 5 fish for over 12 lbs I would consider that a good day here.

[CDMeyer]

I have this same problem from my boat though. A place I fish is do scummy and weedy nothing works there. But I know there are fish there. I will try a weight less senko

[mwh33]

I like to use zoom super flukes when the bottom is scummy. You get the weightlessness of a soft plastic with the erratic action of a jerk/crankbait. You can also fish it a different depths and rig them weedless.

[Crestliner2008]

Why don't you try a drop shot.

[the reel ess]

I like to use zoom super flukes when the bottom is scummy. You get the weightlessness of a soft plastic with the erratic action of a jerk/crankbait. You can also fish it a different depths and rig them weedless.

I got a few bites on that last time out in a mossy and grassy pond. If you can get to other areas, chances are there's an area that doesn't have that moss. Look for where the bream spawn and a bank that drops off deep right at the edge. You can fish those places with a T-Rig or jig as well as that Senko.

 

Something else we've been doing is "slow-cranking" a lipless crankbait in the deepest part. It's been getting the biggest fish. Big bass are sitting down right on that mossy bottom and only feeding on easy prey that passes by.

[bigbill]

Mister Twister Top Props.

Mepps Timber Doodle.

Plastic worm weedless hook.

Grubs weedless hook. Ned rig

Sometimes I put on a larger treble hook lure on my strongest rod setup and open up what I call "Shotgun Alley" I remove the surface weeds so I can fish it, with cranks and spinners. One narrow straight casting line will work the next day.

[raoka]

thanks for all the ideas everyone!

[Sam]

You want to keep your bait out of the slop.

 

A Mann's Minus One (and other wake baits) may be a good selection.

 

Of course, topwaters.

 

Try the drop shot with enough leader to keep the plastic above the slop.

 

Even a Carolina Rig may work even with the weight collecting the slop.

 

Throw an unweighted Zoom trick worm on light line and move it in the water like a snake.

 

Let us know what works for you and post pics of those 10 pounders you will be pulling out very soon.

[primetime]

I Would launch a worm of your choice with a weighted hook and work it fast over the weeds and let it fall here and there....I would look into weedless spoons as mentioned, the Johnson Silver Minnow in 1/2 oz. with a 4" Single Tail grub or creature etc. can be one of the best presentations since fish see frogs and flukes all day long....I would look at the Johnson, Northland Jaw Breaker, Bass Pro version, but don't pay alot for fancy spoons, a gold, silver, black, and something in white or shad pattern and you would be good to go...1/2 oz is a good size for most days, actually Luhr Jensen sells one that is cheaper with a feather...Tony Calcutta spoon that I have been using for years...

 

If fish are Post Spawn, give em a good meal, nice big SLuggo, or if you can get a Floating Jerkbait in the area a little scum should not affect the action of the Legendary Bomber 15A Jerkbait in Gold with florida chart, or bengal tiger or gold orange belly for post spawn seems to be best....Pinch down the barbs to help keep weeds off the lure but a hardbait will be a new look and most guys pass over floater's now a days for more sexy lures but they are still one of the best selling baits period.....Rapala, Rebel, Yo-zuri, Daiwa, Bomber 14A is about as small as you want, but the 15A will get you bit all day long, twitch twitch pause....or slow roll and wake.....I would say Red fin but casting them suck from shore, a wake bait can plow throw floating weeds, I am 100% convinced post Spawn Females are so tired of square bills, lipless cranks, Flukes, frogs, Trick worms, Senko's etc...Put a 5" easy to kill meal in its face and hold on tight, plus you can go 20lb mono or copoly no problem, its a plus....hope that helps

[bigbill]

Oops sorry,

Rebel BIG CLAW CRAWFISH crankbaits. The chartruese one is very hot here.

I cast it out, do a sweep back with the rod so it dives to 10' then reel it fast enough so it stays down. The slower you reel it the shallower it will run. It's a floater so topwater is good too.

These are hot lures from shore and in rivers match your local crawfish colors too.

[raoka]

i went out today...got a better look with the sun...looks like the weeds are growing up fast...probably 1-2 feet below the surface...dropshot is out of the question now...going to try a wakebait! and a soft jerkbait...i havent seen anyone throw one so shoud be ok...what about a slow retrieve on a keitech fat impact weightless?

[frogflogger]

Frog