New Video: How To Fix Line Twist

[Glenn]

Here's a simple trick to fix the dreaded line twist in spinning reels:

 

 

 

[hatrix]

There is a Aaron Martins video on how to remove it without needing to troll it out if you don't have a boat. It works great and I do it all the time even on the boat cause it's quick and easy.

[CeeJay]

Nice video.

As a bank angler I will cut off my lure and attach a ball bearing swivel to a little clip, attach it to a tree branch (or whatever is available) and walk backwards until it's all strained out.

 

Ugh, line twist is really amplified when using ultralight mono line so I've had to do this frequently in the past.  Now I just use homemade 6"-12" leaders with as small a swivel I can find before attaching any lure to the other end.

[SirSnookalot]

Line twist using mono on spinning gear can not be avoided.  The line being wrapped around the spool on each crank is what creates the twist.  The spool on the b/c is at a right angle to the rod, the line goes on without twist.

[Scott F]

If you've never used the technique described in the video with your line running through the rod guides, you'd be amazed at how much your rod will bend from just bare line with no lure on it dragging through the water.

[CeeJay]

Line twist using mono on spinning gear can not be avoided.  The line being wrapped around the spool on each crank is what creates the twist.  The spool on the b/c is at a right angle to the rod, the line goes on without twist.

 

True, not completely avoided...but it can be made much less of a hassle with a few tricks.

Also with spinning reels, reeling in slack line quickly can cause loops to form under the wraps, so I have trained my fingers to apply some tension to the line in those situations.

[Steveo-1969]

I have 3 "tricks" I use to help minimize line twist with a spinning reel.  I actually learned these from watching Bill Dance I think and have been doing them so long they are now automatic on every cast.

 

1) Always close the bail by hand.

2) After closing the bail gently tug on the line before starting to reel to make sure there is no loop on the spool.

3) When starting to reel, let the line bounce off your extended index finger for 3 or 4 handle turns to make sure you don't bury a loop in the spool.

 

AND with all that being said, I use braid on my spinning reels which doesn't give me line twist problems.  :-)

[MIbassyaker]

Yeah, I've found that just teaching myself to be more vigilant about line tightness near the reel has really cut down on how often I have problems with twist. Avoiding small loops and wrap-arounds in the first place, or catching them before they get out of control is key.

[CeeJay]

I have 3 "tricks" I use to help minimize line twist with a spinning reel.  I actually learned these from watching Bill Dance I think and have been doing them so long they are now automatic on every cast.

 

1) Always close the bail by hand.

2) After closing the bail gently tug on the line before starting to reel to make sure there is no loop on the spool.

3) When starting to reel, let the line bounce off your extended index finger for 3 or 4 handle turns to make sure you don't bury a loop in the spool.

 

AND with all that being said, I use braid on my spinning reels which doesn't give me line twist problems.  :-)

 

Very good tricks/tips   especially closing the bail by hand.  As when the handle is turned to close it instead, often a slack loop will form. 

 

 

Another tip:  use a spinning reel with "full/continuous/absolute/infinite anti-reverse" or whatever it's called   My very first spinning reel way back in the day was one that would automatically go backwards for a half turn when at rest...it was always causing line problems.

[desmobob]

Thanks for the tip, Glenn.

 

 

AND with all that being said, I use braid on my spinning reels which doesn't give me line twist problems.  :-)

 

 

 

Does anyone have any success using braid on ultralight spinning set-ups?  I tried it after getting frustrated with twisted 4 lb. line, but ended up trading away line twist for wind knots (which I think are as bad, or worse...).

 

I love using ultralight spinning gear on panfish when I stumble onto some good ones or the bass fishing is slow.  Line issues can spoil the fun!

 

Tight lines,

Bob

[CeeJay]

Thanks for the tip, Glenn.

 

 

 

 

Does anyone have any success using braid on ultralight spinning set-ups?  I tried it after getting frustrated with twisted 4 lb. line, but ended up trading away line twist for wind knots (which I think are as bad, or worse...).

 

I love using ultralight spinning gear on panfish when I stumble onto some good ones or the bass fishing is slow.  Line issues can spoil the fun!

 

Tight lines,

Bob

 

That's something I'll be experimenting with very soon, and I'll let you know the results. 

I fish UL and L pretty much all the time...2-6lb mono,  so  braid will be new to me.

I have 2 reels that each have an extra spool...so I'll find some proper diameter braid and give it a go on one of them.

 

But unless it's an amazing experience...I'll likely stick with mono line for ultralight fishing.   

[Snakehead Whisperer]

If you've never used the technique described in the video with your line running through the rod guides, you'd be amazed at how much your rod will bend from just bare line with no lure on it dragging through the water.

So true. It reminds me of when I'm vertical jigging in deep water (like 60 feet or more) and get snagged and break off. It usually still feels like I have an ounce of lead or more on my line until I get it up near the boat. 

[scaleface]

If Im  fishing from bank I will walk the line out in the grass then reel it in .

[hatrix]

Thanks for the tip, Glenn.

 

 

 

 

Does anyone have any success using braid on ultralight spinning set-ups?  I tried it after getting frustrated with twisted 4 lb. line, but ended up trading away line twist for wind knots (which I think are as bad, or worse...).

 

I love using ultralight spinning gear on panfish when I stumble onto some good ones or the bass fishing is slow.  Line issues can spoil the fun!

 

Tight lines,

Bob

 

Yes and that's like the only way to go in my eyes on a UL and pretty much any spinning reel. I just had my UL spooled with 10# and it has the diameter of 2# but just switched it out after I came across some new 5# power pro that's blue and meant for ice fishing I guess. It has the diameter of 1# so I don't think I can get any smaller. Twist will always kind of happen but try and use a swivel if you can to try and mitigate some of it. Trolling out your line works great but is not always a option and takes longer then just doing what Aaron Martins does. You can just do that only the fly any time you have twist building any it only takes seconds. One nice thing about braid is you can actually see the twist building and can gauge how bad it is. If you line looks super twisted spend the minute it takes to push the twist out before you end up with a ball of line and have to spend 10x the amount of time pulling it out. Hope you dont pull the wrong one and actually tie it into a knot. If that happens now it is going to take even longer lol. Not to mention you will cast much better with no twist in your line and everyone loves better casting.

 

I will post it again for everyone if you haven't seen it. Btw I am not trying to somehow make it seems like Glens video and method is no good. Its just another way as not everyone will always have the option of trolling. I have no idea how to ember a youtube video right now. Sorry

 

https://youtu.be/TNOfcZT-0JA

[SirSnookalot]

Thanks for the tip, Glenn.

 

 

 

 

Does anyone have any success using braid on ultralight spinning set-ups?  I tried it after getting frustrated with twisted 4 lb. line, but ended up trading away line twist for wind knots (which I think are as bad, or worse...).

 

I love using ultralight spinning gear on panfish when I stumble onto some good ones or the bass fishing is slow.  Line issues can spoil the fun!

 

Tight lines,

Bob

I use braid on all my freshwater spinning gear, my ul as well.  I don't care to use anything thinner than 10#.  My ul which is an old trion doesn't gets wind knots, I really think on this set up it's the rod that makes difference not reel, the rod is an inexpensive one.  All my other set ups do get wind knots, that was until I changed a brand on one of them, it's been knot free for months.

The video makes a good point about centering the hook, an off centered fluke can turn over causing additional twist.  A bb swivel will help, but only the twist caused from the swivel back town to the lure, you will still get twist when the line gets wrapped around the spool, not "winched" in like on a b/c.  Again the video makes a good point about reeling against the drag, not only will twist occur but it's counter productive unless the drag is tightened down, in most cases that shouldn't be done anyway.

Closing the bail by hand then keeping the line taunt is a good method for loop prevention.  A loop can cause horrendous tangles, but not to be confused with line twist, 2 different issues.

[hatrix]

I use braid on all my freshwater spinning gear, my ul as well.  I don't care to use anything thinner than 10#.  My ul which is an old trion doesn't gets wind knots, I really think on this set up it's the rod that makes difference not reel, the rod is an inexpensive one.  All my other set ups do get wind knots, that was until I changed a brand on one of them, it's been knot free for months.

The video makes a good point about centering the hook, an off centered fluke can turn over causing additional twist.  A bb swivel will help, but only the twist caused from the swivel back town to the lure, you will still get twist when the line gets wrapped around the spool, not "winched" in like on a b/c.  Again the video makes a good point about reeling against the drag, not only will twist occur but it's counter productive unless the drag is tightened down, in most cases that shouldn't be done anyway.

Closing the bail by hand then keeping the line taunt is a good method for loop prevention.  A loop can cause horrendous tangles, but not to be confused with line twist, 2 different issues.

 

There with out a doubt is a correlation between the reel size and rod size as far as twist goes. I had a problem on a brand new rod and reel. It was all over within 15 minutes of fishing and I couldn't stop it from casting out knots no matter what I did. Someone on here said something about the diameter of the spool and the first eye on the rod but I am not sure the specifics. I put the exact same reel on just in a different size and fished that combo all year and never once had a problem or even removed any twist that might of built up.

[Crestliner2008]

Thanks for the tip, Glenn.

 

 

 

 

Does anyone have any success using braid on ultralight spinning set-ups?  I tried it after getting frustrated with twisted 4 lb. line, but ended up trading away line twist for wind knots (which I think are as bad, or worse...).

 

I love using ultralight spinning gear on panfish when I stumble onto some good ones or the bass fishing is slow.  Line issues can spoil the fun!

 

Tight lines,

Bob

I use braid as well on my 4 UL rigs for crappie & yellow perch. I use Fireline Crystal in the 2# test rating, with a 4' section of 4# test fluorocarbon for a leader. Leader is joined with an Alberto knot. Have been using this set-up for many years now. Once you try this, you will never go back to mono, I guarantee!

 

Side note: I recommend (JMO) that you do not use 2# test Nanofil for your mainline. I've lost way too many jigs and fish due to knot failures with this line. I will never use it again - in any pound test rating! Something is inherently wrong with the Nanofil design. Until they correct the problem, I'll stick with Fireline Crystal. Cast beautifully on my 7' & 9' rods.

[CeeJay]

You guys are making me want to spool up my UL reels with braid   I guess you really can teach an old dog new tricks (not that I'm that old haha).

I'll look for Fireline Crystal, thanks for the info on that line Crestliner. 

[Mr Q]

   To keep line twist to a minimum, I use snap swivels at the end of the line to allow some lures to spin without twisting the line. I have used this "line out" untwisting when a tackle shop introduces twist into the line spooling procedure incorrectly. One "line out" in the water corrects this. Some cheaply designed spinning reels introduce line twist in the reel-in mode.

[Canyon explorer]

I have tried everything getting the usual some better than others until I tried Berkley XL. Through all line sizes it has less memory reducing line twist and spool jump than all others