Don't Do What I Did (Arashi Squarebill)

[GoRavens]

I was fishing a small pond and was trying out different lures. Using power pro braid with a leader. It was starting to get late and I wanted just one more fish. I was running out of fluorocarbon leader and tied on my arashi. But in my head I thought "those bassresource guys said not to use braid with treble baits". I did it anyway though. It had about 5 inches of line before the braid. I cast out the crank and get bit by a dink. I set the hook and reel him in. I look at my bait and I got one straightened out hook! From this little dink of a fish! I'm just here to remind someone it doesn't take much force to straighten out a (lite) hook with braid. Huuuuuh. Anybody know what kind and size treble I can put on arashi squarebill?

[smalljaw67]

Which one was it, the 3 or the 5? I have to know because each one uses a different size hook. The hooks on those are pretty stout, I'm surprised that you bent it out on a small fish even if you were using braid. I've been throwing them with 14lb mono this season and I was hung up twice pretty solidly and didn't have the hook bend so you must have had something strange happen. The hook size for the 3 is a size #4 and the 5 takes a size #2, and I' would use the regular shank Mustad KVD Elite Triple Grips, and the hook up ratio for me has been good with the size hooks on the bait so I don't see a reason or need to upsize the hooks on them.

[GoRavens]

Well I was definitely scratching my head. Lol. It's the size 3. Thanks for your reply

[MDBowHunter]

It wasn't the braid as much as you setting the hook, with today's trebels all you need to do is sweep the rod. The only thing you'll accomplish by actually setting the hook is a lost fish or straightened hooks.

[Montanaro]

Yeah no setting of hook.

Keep arms locked where you were reeling and simply twist your hips to apply pressure.

[deep]

I was fishing a small pond and was trying out different lures. Using power pro braid with a leader. It was starting to get late and I wanted just one more fish. I was running out of fluorocarbon leader and tied on my arashi. But in my head I thought "those bassresource guys said not to use braid with treble baits". I did it anyway though. It had about 5 inches of line before the braid. I cast out the crank and get bit by a dink. I set the hook and reel him in. I look at my bait and I got one straightened out hook! From this little dink of a fish! I'm just here to remind someone it doesn't take much force to straighten out a (lite) hook with braid. Huuuuuh. Anybody know what kind and size treble I can put on arashi squarebill?

 

For future reference; I think that's a bad idea (poor shock resistance).

 

I do just fine with braid for topwaters and jerkbaits. Can't remember the last time I bent out a hook (on a fish).

[iabass8]

Though not my personal choice, straight braid is fine and not your issue and it is unlikely your hookset. I have quite a few Storm Arashis. They are what I use a lot in rocks. The hooks are junk. I initially thought they were okay as i didn't have much of an issue when I first used them. I've bent and broken quite a few of the hooks. Change them out. 

[JGBassinAL]

lol your hook set isn't the reason your treble hook bent. I don't understand why multiple people have said that. If the hook set did happen to cause the treble hook to bend then it is because you were using braid, the hook set alone has nothing to do with it. That being said, you can take a pair of pliers and bend the hook back or change the hook. I always opt for Mustad Elite Short Shanks for my crankbaits.

[Montanaro]

I fish braid with cranks all the time and I don't bend out hooks. Braid is not the determining factor. If I used my punching hookset with those crankbaits with braid then yeah I'd bend them out!

But it appears the hooks themselves are the issue here.

[Weld's Largemouth]

I never have straightened any hooks out with braid, even the weakest trebled baits I own. I think its more of the hookset you have, its too much of a hookset.

[ww2farmer]

I have cranked with braid for years. Never straightened out a hook. The stock Arashi hooks are fairly decent, hooks too....My B.S. detector is on alert.

[Choporoz]

What are the chances that one hook was previously straightened on a rock or branch or other light snag and you just hadn't noticed?  I find it challenging to imagine straightening even light wire hooks on short fish no matter the line or the hookset.

[flyfisher]

Braid doesn't apply such great amounts of force that a hook is going to be bent.  I have been using braid on cranks for at least 3 years now and have never straightened a hook on a hookset.  Trying to break from snags, absolutely but i would rather lose a hook than a crankbait.

 

Replace the hooks and be done with it....

[GoRavens]

If it was a light snag I must didn't feel it. I don't think I have a heavy hookset but I guess it's a possibility.

[Catch and Grease]

I fish with arashi squarebills/wakebaits and braid and have never striaghtened out their hooks, don't lay it to them and don't lock down you drag and you should be fine.

[wnybassman]

I think you would rip the lips off a small bass long before straightening hooks.  

[webertime]

A 5.8lb Smallie on 30lb Power Pro (with a Lucky Craft crank and their hit or miss hooks) say you probably just got a bad hook on your crank.  I had a Duo Realis Spinbait 80 with their Owner hooks have all 3 points break off a treble due to a thrashing 2lb Smallie this spring.  Just a bad hook making it through.

[Tim Kelly]

Hooks tend to bend when something odd happens, like the fish being hooked across the face or under the chin. Any situation where there can be an increased torque load from an indirect angle. Will happen with all but the stoutest hooks sometimes, just something to keep an eye on. They also get bent when you unhook them if they're in a tough bit of flesh and you twist them out or the fish flips off the hook when you swing it in.

[dave]

Nothing mentioned about the rod.  Could the rod be "a" contributing factor?  

 

I have never had issues using braid for treble hooks.  Braid and the appropriate rod,  with the correct hook set, should be fine.

[everythingthatswims]

The hooks on arashis are too stout IMO for a crankbait. One time I took the hooks off of a 5 and used them for my s waver 168 when a bass straightened the stock hooks on it and it worked surprisingly well.

You probably had already bent the hook out on something or it was a "dud" from the factory