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when your on a pattern how long will it last until it starts to slow down or disappear all together? because over the past week and a half I've been on the same pattern and its still producing 

 

thanks

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I have seen patterns that persisted most all summer and some that did not last through the day. There is no way I know to tell how long a pattern will last, although changing weather and water conditions will usually alter a pattern.

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when your on a pattern how long will it last until it starts to slow down or disappear all together? because over the past week and a half I've been on the same pattern and its still producing 

 

thanks

Define your pattern?

Tom

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If you define a pattern as fishing shallow, or dead falls, or riprap then it could last all year. Then again, that isn't a pattern in my book. Catching two fish off a rock pile on a point in 18ft of water and again on the next point and the next is what I define as a pattern. I'll then go from point to point and search the 18ft zone in search of rocks. I'll continue until that pattern no longer produces. Patterns, as such, rarely last throughout the day. The general area my continue to produce fish for days with other patterns developing.

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I`ve been able to catch fish every time i`ve gone fishin for the past 2 month`s on wacky rigged senkos,Infact I was at the lake thursday and caught Over 5 Lmb`s and smb`s using senkos...So I would call that A pattern.

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There really isn't an answer to this question. Patterning fish is a way to simplify your day on the water while still being effective at catching fish. You try some baits in some different spots. If they work, you keep doing it. If they don't, you change it up until you find something that works. You found something that's working, so keep doing it until it doesn't. No need to complicate things.

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I fish the gila river in Arizona every week. Literally all you need is 2 rods every outing. Frog rod/flipping rod. That's how you catch fish there. River is like 6ft max in every "pond" section I have fished. Its nothing but trees and grass. Shallow water anglers dream,. Pattern never changes I stick to fishing this river cuz  I have caught multiple 5lbers outta there tons of 3/4s. In small tin boat tourney the other day a 12lber and 10lber were caught there. Froggin and flipping lol.

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Man if someone knew the answer to that question they'd be the best bass angler in the world! Patterns are constantly changing, even if ever so slightly. Being able to recognize that and make the appropriate changes are one of the hardest things to do in fishing. 

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Depends on what kind of pattern y'all are talking about.

Seasonal pattern

Water depth patter

Lure pattern

Cover pattern

Location pattern

Y'all get that?

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Define your pattern?

Tom

Tom do you have the Pattern diagram that in-fisherman published a while ago?  

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Tom do you have the Pattern diagram that in-fisherman published a while ago?

No, just curious what the OP considers a pattern. As you can see everyone isn't on the same page as what a pattern is. Bass terminology changes over time, anglers tend to redefine terms to suite their need, pattern is a god example.

Tom

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Depends on what kind of pattern y'all are talking about.

Seasonal pattern

Water depth patter

Lure pattern

Cover pattern

Location pattern

Y'all get that?

Wouldn't a pattern be the culmination of all of these?

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It all depends on how much faith and experience I have in the pattern.  If its a new pattern I could be out of there before you know it. :cut:

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Wouldn't a pattern be the culmination of all of these?

Those & more! ;)

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When I catch 3 largemouth bass from the same lake....I figure that's a pattern  :nod:

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when your on a pattern how long will it last until it starts to slow down or disappear all together? because over the past week and a half I've been on the same pattern and its still producing

thanks

Until you give us the pattern no one can answer!

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In my mind it can be a short 45mins or as long as a week or two. It is hard to tell how long one will last. Weather, time of year, and pressure all play key roles in it along with many more variables

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Catt offered 5 forms of patterns only to illustrate the importance of isolating your pattern,

rather than drowning in complexity. A pattern is simply a repeatable, easy-to-follow guideline.

The culmination of every possible pattern takes us back to square one, which is no pattern at all. 

 

About 3 weeks ago I noticed a simplistic 'locational pattern'. On this particular lake, weed pockets

& weed alleys are normally pay dirt. But most of our action was now coming from bass situated

along the outermost edges of the pads and isolated offshore weed islands.

This pattern is so simplistic that you can run full-throttle between trial sites,

but you're free to refine the pattern as more info is gathered.

How long did it last? It lasted for two weekends, and it's not working any more  :-(

 

Roger

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Right now the pattern I'm on is that all the bass are congregating at the mouths of cuts on my river

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When I catch 3 largemouth bass from the same lake....I figure that's a pattern  :nod:

For me, that's pure luck. Hooking shoreline trees on every other cast IS a pattern and one I can repeat without much effort.

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I think the 2 most misused and misunderstood terms in bass fishing might be

Pattern

And Structure!!

Roland Martin wrote an interesting book on patterns, I think it's called 101 Bass Patterns or something similar, it's worth a read if you can find it.

To one guy, catching spawning crappie 2' deep with a minnow under a bobber near the bank is a pattern.

To another guy, it's 2' deep on the nw corner of the lake w water 2 degrees warmer than the s side, on wood , in shade, during a full moon, with a hard bottom and stable not falling water level, and they'll hit a jig but only if you tip it with a medium sized minnow and hold your mouth a certain way while you dangle it for at least a 10 count before moving to the next stump.

It's as simple or as complicated as we want to make it, the important thing is being able to formulate your own system for recognizing when the elements of your pattern are in play on a given day, and also, being able to recognize when they are not and its time to look for a new one.

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Well patterns can change from 15 minutes to anytime it has no limits.

My two cents. I fish the same places every year. I fish from shore in one area. The rest of the place is private. I notice what's the hottest bait this year might not be hot next year in the same place. It's time to find out what's the next hot thang.

I through a ritual of different baits till I get action anyway. Different styles and colors. I have confidence in ever bait. I use because it worked in the past. If still no action I vary my presentations from the norm. You can have one pattern or multiple patterns.

To me this is the challenge to myself to figure out the pattern and presentation. I enjoy it.

I'm serious and don't give up. One time I went through my tackle box twice. I found out we could have different water conditions as we go deeper in the water column. I threw all my normal hot colors. The water was slightly stained. I put on, like I preach a firetiger crankbaits and caught bass. Ever since my motto is when all else fails throw firetiger. It's not just the pattern it's the color too.

I caught bass in this one spot all the time I know the bass are there. The spinnerbaits, inline spinners, cranks to c rig senko/brushogs etc have always caught something. Change your normal tactics.

In using plastics I install a rattle even in my jigs too. A scent, a rattle and the right color they can see is a given. I go after all there sences.

When the bite slows down it might not be a change in the pattern. Change colors in throwing the same bait. Try different sizes too. I notice when the light conditions change so can the colors too.

Sorry if I bore u ill go away now.

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A pattern is anything that can be duplicated

It can be a general duplication like laydowns or specific like the end of the laydown.

The more specific you can pattern the more successful you will be.

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The more specific you can pattern the more successful you will be.

That right there is the pattern within the pattern. There are many variables; location, depth, speed, angle, size, color, noise/vibration, cadence, etc. Even line size and type can sometimes matter. Generally by the time I figure these things out the pattern has changed...

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I'm of a mind that "patterns" exist only between the ears, and much like "techniques" go a long way to limiting thinking and hindering success.

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