Brett Strohl Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 I have three crank baits that are looping in circles when I real them in. Is it possible I'm working the lures too fast, or is the swivel interfering with the bait action, or is just that the lure defective? The lures I'm having trouble with are a Rapala scatter lip, a rebel deep diving crank, and some chinese jointed minnow I got off ebay. Quote
IndyGlockMan Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 I had the same issue with a Rapala scatter lip. I returned it to the store and got another one. the 2nd one was better. Looked fine on the outside but I think it was out of balance or something. Quote
CRANKENSTIEN Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 I wasnt impressed by the scatter rap I purchased and as far as the other two they could be questionable as well. If you usually dont have that issue with other cranks and your line isnt somehow tangled in the bait, I would blame it on the individual baits. Quote
Cody S Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 I have had this problem as well and with my experience the rebels circled when cranking too fast but work just fine when cranked moderately...as for the others I would try to return them and try with another lure if it continues to happen adjust your cranking speed and see what happens Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 Why are you using a swivel with crankbaits? Get all that crap off of there, make sure your hooks aren't tangled, your lips aren't cracked, your line tie is straight and reel the baits slowly. If they still don't work, the baits are probably bad. 2 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 Take the swivel off and make sure the groove in the slit ring isnt touching the eye. I always tie my knot on the groove . 1 Quote
Brett Strohl Posted May 22, 2015 Author Posted May 22, 2015 I'm not proficient enough in my knot tying yet to get rid of swivels unfortunately I've been fishing multiple other cranks and honestly haven't had any issue with them. I might just get rid of the Rebel and the Chinese lure (You pay $1.60 for something and it's hard to expect much). One of the things I'm starting to dislike about cranks is that if I'm not using at least a moderately expensive lure, they aren't even worth having on the line for the most part. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted May 22, 2015 Super User Posted May 22, 2015 The scatter rap sucks!!!! Plain and simple. I bought 3 and they all did the exact same thing. I threw them in the trash. Quote
Mccallister25 Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 Def. Get rid of the swivel. Learn to tie an improved clinch knot, or a palomar. Two simple and very good knots. As far as the scatter raps are concerned.. I purchased two about a year or do ago. They've only seen the water maybe three times. They're garbage IMO. Quote
Brett Strohl Posted May 22, 2015 Author Posted May 22, 2015 I caught 15+ fish on my shallow scatter rap the first day I used it. I bragged so much about it I think someone I was fishing with stole it lol. The only complaints I have about it are is that they're just too freaking expensive. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted May 22, 2015 Super User Posted May 22, 2015 Knot tying is a mandatory skill if you're going to fish. Like Mccallister said, the improved clinch and palomar are simple knots to tie. Get some line and practice until you have it down. Using a cheap snap swivel and never re-tying is going to cost you a fish and a lure. Might as well learn to do it right. Quote
Brett Strohl Posted May 22, 2015 Author Posted May 22, 2015 I'm not saying your wrong, but I just haven't. I like swivels and switching lures out every 15 or 20 minutes, since it's so hard to find something they'll take. Quote
Super User Scott F Posted May 22, 2015 Super User Posted May 22, 2015 Use a snap if don't like to retie, but loose the swivel. Quote
CRANKENSTIEN Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 Take the swivel off and make sure the groove in the slit ring isnt touching the eye. I always tie my knot on the groove . I always tie on the groove of the split ring. If you don't it can screw up the action and the way the lure tracks. I can see how you can argue to tie around the fat of the swivel but with a palomiar I have never had an issue. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted May 22, 2015 Super User Posted May 22, 2015 I have tied direct and used snaps. I have NEVER had a problem with a bait like I did the scatter rap. Pure junk. Quote
Brett Strohl Posted May 22, 2015 Author Posted May 22, 2015 well if any of you guys have shallow scatters that you don't want I'd give you $4 or $5 bucks for one since I had mine stolen. Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted May 22, 2015 Super User Posted May 22, 2015 Get rid of the swivel. Scatter raps need a slow retrieve on a slow speed reel or they spin out of control. I've had crankbaits that worked for years start swimming in circles. When that happens, they are almost impossible to fix. Quote
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