Super User Long Mike Posted May 23, 2015 Super User Posted May 23, 2015 Not many engineers in that group. And there's a vast difference between home schooled and self taught, as was common in the eras mentioned. As an aside, Albert Einstein received formal education until he was 21. I didn't check on the other "engineers."
Super User Lund Explorer Posted May 23, 2015 Author Super User Posted May 23, 2015 Thanks for this. As a public school teacher I will just bite my tongue because what I have to say will surely get me banned. As for me, looks like I will watch it rain all weekend. Biased comments like these really show your level of maturity and knowledge. It's great if you want to support homeschooling but to stereotype public schools and teachers is ignorant. I think we can all agree that it will be almost impossible to influence someone who has been subjected to an intense brainwashing for his entire life. In the meantime, I hope that both of you have a nice weekend. Most of mine will be spent between visiting the graves of my ancestors, enjoying time with the relatives, and taking part in my annual ritual with my local American Legion Post. While the weather forecast is showing that we will most likely be marching in the rain, I always come away from this event feeling better. I refuse to ruin this weekend any further by arguing with someone who has probably been told that the world is still flat! BTW, in another week or so, I am going to enjoy being the Grandfather of a very special young girl who will be graduating as her class Salutatorian. I will also be giving her all the support I can as she prepares to attend Michigan State University as she works towards a degree in veterinarian medicine. She IS the product of public education! 1
Super User Lund Explorer Posted May 23, 2015 Author Super User Posted May 23, 2015 Btw, Adam Lanza was home schooled too if you wanna start throwing names out. So is Josh Duggar who is recently in the news for his perversions. Not to mention the train wreck of a family known as "The Browns" living in the Alaskan Bush!
Super User Senko lover Posted May 23, 2015 Super User Posted May 23, 2015 Not many engineers in that group. And there's a vast difference between home schooled and self taught, as was common in the eras mentioned. As an aside, Albert Einstein received formal education until he was 21. I didn't check on the other "engineers." Here's somebody who wasn't sure if he wanted to be a mechanical engineer or a computer engineer, so he majored in both: http://www.njit.edu/features/student/michael-anderson.php
Super User Senko lover Posted May 23, 2015 Super User Posted May 23, 2015 Lund, I realize nothing I say is going to further the conversation or appease you, so I'm not going to take it any farther. Have a great Memorial Day weekend, and I hope that your march won't be rained on. Congrats on your granddaughter graduating!
Super User SirSnookalot Posted May 23, 2015 Super User Posted May 23, 2015 In fairness I think there is a place for home schooling, that place would be where public education is terrible. The more affluent the area the more resources are available for education, not to mention the family background. Inner cities lack funding, many are 1 parent homes with that parent working 2 jobs and not home enough for any kind of supervision. Quite simply the more affluent students are raised for success while the poor ones are destined for failure. What may be lacking in home schooling is the teacher, speaking in generalities not specific examples. How well trained is that teacher and in how many subjects? Public education employs counselors on subjects that many parents aren't aware of, something they just haven't studied. I believe interaction with fellow students is healthy, from sports, to drama clubs to other elective interests, makes for a more well rounded individual. I'm always saddened when I hear about funding being cut for some programs. If I home schooled my children, not that I'm qualified, their studies would not revolve around the lunar calendar's optimum fishing time. 1
MIbassin Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 As a kid turning 17 in July, i have to say the the phone thing annoys me to no end as well. I will be celebrating and remembering with family friends, and enjoying living in a great country. As far as the public school vs home school, I have a very hard time seeing how home schooling is beneficial. 1
Super User F14A-B Posted May 23, 2015 Super User Posted May 23, 2015 No child left behind is a joke, bullying policy does nothing to protect the child being bullied.. Only protects the bully ( I hate the word ) a young person has a right to protect themselves from physical harm, truly they may not understand all it entails, however.. Schools nor the States quite frankly should have supreme authority over my son being smashed to bits and as long as he takes the brutality?..He may remain in school (after he gets out of the hospital of course) public education most assuredly has major problems. 1
Matthew2000 Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 Alexander Graham Bell Thomas Edison Robert Frost J.R.R. Tolkein Florence Nightingale Franklin Roosevelt Theodore Roosevelt Woodrow Wilson C.S. Lewis Frank Lloyd Wright George Washington Carver Albert Einstein Benjamin Franklin Wright Brothers Cyrus McCormic Samuel Clemins Charles Dickens All homeschooled just sayin Wow all of those are before public education was given for more than 5 grades. Albert Einstein actually was forced to drop out of school.
Matthew2000 Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 No child left behind is a joke, bullying policy does nothing to protect the child being bullied.. Only protects the bully ( I hate the word ) a young person has a right to protect themselves from physical harm, truly they may not understand all it entails, however.. Schools nor the States quite frankly should have supreme authority over my son being smashed to bits and as long as he takes the brutality?..He may remain in school (after he gets out of the hospital of course) public education most assuredly has major problems.Um no. In my school district people use the bullying reports as a threat, if you don't do this for me I'm going to report you. I had one filed on me because I was standing up for my friend, I basically owned the kid who was being a bully. He in turn went straight to the guidance counselor and filed a bullying report on me. I was never even given a chance to say my side of the story. The only person who was ever asked any questions as a witness was the kids best friend. I even gave 4 people for the guidance counselor to ask questions to she never even attempted to contact them. I flipped on her and my principle. They were clearly favoring whoever reported the person first. The way the system is set up clearly favors the one who reports the person. I have never seen the bullying that is often portrayed by the media, most times it is started by an argument and the person uses it as a weapon to get the other in trouble. One girl in my school left this year because she was being "bullied". She asked for a TBR (To Be Rude) on social media, well she got what she was asking for. The people were rude and blunt to her. But she wasn't expecting that's what they were going to say, so they were given a suspension. This girl asked for people to be mean to her, she got what she asked for and got mad about it. How is that bullying? The public education debate is riduclous. It's basically a way to set you up for being mommys little baby for the rest of you're life.
Super User gardnerjigman Posted May 23, 2015 Super User Posted May 23, 2015 You guys have given me food for thought. I was brought up public school in small town USA (70 kids in my graduating class). My wife came from one of the largest and top ranked school systems in the state. We both had great experiences but we both also saw things and were exposed to things that kids and young teenagers shouldn't be. I don't blame our school system at all, rather, the kids in that system which equals to blaming the true wrong-doers, the parents of those children. What it boils down to is teaching your children right from wrong, always support and show interest in their lives, hobbies, friends etc and this (more often than not) will allow them to make good choices regardless of the situations around them.
Super User F14A-B Posted May 23, 2015 Super User Posted May 23, 2015 We now return to regular programming, ( Willie Nelson jig fishing on memorial weekend)
Super User tomustang Posted May 23, 2015 Super User Posted May 23, 2015 Say what you want about kids and phones 1
Big C Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 I think we can all agree that it will be almost impossible to influence someone who has been subjected to an intense brainwashing for his entire life. Wow, kinda suprised the mods haven't tweaked that post. Pretty strong rhetoric. Totally uncalled for, you do realize you're addressing a kid right? On that note Happy Memorial Day
Jd_Phillips_Fishin Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 Alexander Graham Bell Thomas Edison Robert Frost J.R.R. Tolkein Florence Nightingale Franklin Roosevelt Theodore Roosevelt Woodrow Wilson C.S. Lewis Frank Lloyd Wright George Washington Carver Albert Einstein Benjamin Franklin Wright Brothers Cyrus McCormic Samuel Clemins Charles Dickens All homeschooled just sayin What I meant by doing this list is that don't need to go to a special school or college to be a famous author, scientist, inventor etc.
Super User SirSnookalot Posted May 24, 2015 Super User Posted May 24, 2015 What I meant by doing this list is that don't need to go to a special school or college to be a famous author, scientist, inventor etc. FYI FDR was not home schooled, nor did he attend public school, he went to a private school then on to Harvard. Many affluent people of that era went the same route.
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted May 24, 2015 Global Moderator Posted May 24, 2015 BTW, I'll bet this thread gets the padlock. Winner, winner. LOCKDOWN!!
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