FloridaBasser1 Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 We all have heard or used giant swimbaits in the past, and i'm talking 8-12 inches. But do the same "craved patterns" that work for #Butch Brown and anglers in western lakes, also work for eastern states? The most craved swimbait is probably the Hud-Swimbait, in trout colors.If you need to ask why your way behind the game. My problem with this is, eastern states don't have trout- but will a bass still find this appetizing? Their is always the option for spending $$$$ for DEPS swimbaits in a variety of common fish patterns found throughout the country. But those baits are out of the option for the common man. What do you think for color pattern throughout the nation specifically eastern states? Does it matter? And most importantly, do they catch fish? #ButchBrown#HuddlestonTroutSwimbait Quote
Super User deep Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 Giant baits indeed. lol. Expand your horizons. Don't they use live shiners for bass down in FL? 4 Quote
FloridaBasser1 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Posted May 21, 2015 Giant baits indeed. lol. Expand your horizons. Don't they use live shiners for bass down in FL? LOL- BIG SHINERS- & I mean BIG... 1 Quote
Super User everythingthatswims Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 Huddlestons come in different sizes and colors. You should be able to find something to match your forage. Lots of baits out there that don't imitate trout. Some say that it doesn't matter if you use trout baits in non-trout waters. While I prefer to match the hatch, I have caught bass in shad lakes on trout baits, and bass in trout lakes with no shad on shad baits. 1 Quote
Super User deep Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 LOL- BIG SHINERS- & I mean BIG... Maybe you need a #Whinkle shad then since you're looking for the most-craved bait. In all seriousness; learn about giant bass and their forage, and then match the size and color. Real Prey makes a soft shiner bait. Joe is a great guy. Give him a call. 1 Quote
primetime Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 So many good options that are not expensive, the soft baits have the best overall action, the soft magic swimmers are great, Savage soft baits, and I like the Large Yum Money Minnows as well....For hardbaits, Spro BBZ, Egret kick a mullet is perfect imitation of shiners in ponds and works great as a wake bait or glide bait, it doesn't move all that far when you pull it, but it just catches fish better than most, plus it looks awesome in the water with color. Great hooks, can throw on Braid and not worry about bending anything even if an alligator grabs it. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted May 21, 2015 Global Moderator Posted May 21, 2015 I'd certainly consider myself a "common man", and I own several Deps swimbaits, along with Hudds. Do a search on Southern Trout Eaters. Bass don't read books. They don't know what they're supposed to eat, or what fish live in the lake they live in. All they know is "Hey, I could eat that fish over there". How many bright chartreuse baitfish are out there? None in the lakes I fish but going out without a chartreuse spinnerbait (also a very realistic fish imitator), wouldn't be very smart. OP, you're in an area with potential to produce huge fish. I would 100% be fishing them down there. I know this to be a fact as I'm currently fishing them in Kansas, which everyone knows is a big bass factory If you're not sure about going straight to the monster baits, get a 68 Hudd, 175 Slide Swimmer, 168 S Waver, or the Real Prey 7" Shiner. You'll catch quantity as well as quality. 3 Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 Swimbaits will catch them anywhere. I've seen two pounders engulf 8" swimbaits. Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 I'd kinda be interested to see what giant swimbaits would do on Rodman. Mainly guys use big ol' shad for fishing for monsters down their Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 Where can I see these "swimbaits" you speak of? Man, don't buy into the "only Cali bass eat big baits." If you snoop around enough and pay attention, you'll see guys that have adopted the big bait mantra and have been at least partly successful with it. 3 Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 Where can I see these "swimbaits" you speak of? Man, don't buy into the "only Cali bass eat big baits." If you snoop around enough and pay attention, you'll see guys that have adopted the big bait mantra and have been at least partly successful with it. Bass are opportunistic feeders, unlike a shark so to speak. A bass eats whenever it has the opportunity, meaning anything that comes by a bass and is easily catchable, and can be partially fit into its mouth it will try and eat it. Quote
Super User deep Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 Bass are opportunistic feeders, unlike a shark so to speak. A bass eats whenever it has the opportunity, meaning anything that comes by a bass and is easily catchable, and can be partially fit into its mouth it will try and eat it. I don't know **** about sharks, but what (first-hand, hopefully) experiences makes you think you can put anything in front of a bass, and it'll eat it? Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 This swimbait stuff is just too much to handle.... Give me Roboworms and some of those new fangled mushroom thingerz and I'm happy. 6 Quote
Super User gardnerjigman Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 This swimbait stuff is just too much to handle.... Give me Roboworms and some of those new fangled mushroom thingerz and I'm happy. We all know you hate swimbaits speed... 4 Quote
Super User WRB Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 Florida strain LMB are wired to eat big prey fish like golden shiners. Northern strain LMB prefer smaller bait fish but will sometimes eat large baitfish. Bass are like other animals that can't determine their size compared to the size of what they may consider prey, they make mistakes some of the time. It's like a small dog attacking a big dog, the small dog doesn't know it's own size. In Calfornia planted rainbow filled a niche for FLMB, long thin shape and high protein prey. It's not that a big NLMB wouldn't eat a planted trout, they aren't wired genetically to hunt trout like a FLMB does. Having lived in SoCal all my life where' trout plants are common long before FLMB were introduced here, the NLMB didn't target the trout like FLMB do. Back to the question about big swimbaits; 11" to 16" swimbaits weighing in excess of 5 oz. I believe your odds are reduced using swimbaits that size where NLMB are the bass.Swimbaits in the 6" to 10" sizes weighing up to 4 oz should be a better choice for NLMB. The most universal color for swimbaits isn't rainbow trout! Rainbow is a very common color, baby bass would be a better choice where rainbow don't exist. My advice is to buy good quality swimbaits with a good tract record of catching big bass. If you plan to get into swimbaits invest in a swimbait rod and reel. Tom 4 Quote
Fisher-O-men Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Good info ^^^ . But be prepared to get skunked many days! This factor is what keeps me out of this game. Hard to know what you are doing, right or wrong, if nothing bites. Quote
Super User Raul Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 We all have heard or used giant swimbaits in the past, and i'm talking 8-12 inches. But do the same "craved patterns" that work for #Butch Brown and anglers in western lakes, also work for eastern states? The most craved swimbait is probably the Hud-Swimbait, in trout colors.If you need to ask why your way behind the game. My problem with this is, eastern states don't have trout- but will a bass still find this appetizing? Their is always the option for spending $$$$ for DEPS swimbaits in a variety of common fish patterns found throughout the country. But those baits are out of the option for the common man. What do you think for color pattern throughout the nation specifically eastern states? Does it matter? And most importantly, do they catch fish? butch-brown-swimbait-bass.jpg #ButchBrown#HuddlestonTroutSwimbait 99% of Mexico doesn´t have trout and guess what ? oh yes, "trout" swim baits do work down here. Quote
Weld's Largemouth Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 eastern states don't have trout Eastern states have plenty of trout. Not all lakes have them, but most do. 2 Quote
FloridaBasser1 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Posted May 21, 2015 I'd certainly consider myself a "common man", and I own several Deps swimbaits, along with Hudds. Do a search on Southern Trout Eaters. Bass don't read books. They don't know what they're supposed to eat, or what fish live in the lake they live in. All they know is "Hey, I could eat that fish over there". How many bright chartreuse baitfish are out there? None in the lakes I fish but going out without a chartreuse spinnerbait (also a very realistic fish imitator), wouldn't be very smart. OP, you're in an area with potential to produce huge fish. I would 100% be fishing them down there. I know this to be a fact as I'm currently fishing them in Kansas, which everyone knows is a big bass factory If you're not sure about going straight to the monster baits, get a 68 Hudd, 175 Slide Swimmer, 168 S Waver, or the Real Prey 7" Shiner. You'll catch quantity as well as quality. Thanks for the info, i really like the Real Prey Shiner and the Hud 68+ the grass minnow i think its called look appealing from my perspective and have been known to catch big bass. But now is the time to throw the #swimmers since the bass are guarding their Fry/ hatchlings and are are super aggressive towards Bream/Shiners/big Shad. Quote
1234567 Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Being in florida what lakes are you preferring large swimbaits to use on. Ill tell you if its okeechobee there not gonna work as well as youd like to think for big ones. 1 Quote
Super User Senko lover Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 LOL- BIG SHINERS- & I mean BIG... DUDE. That looks so much like one of Speed's swimbaits that he posted a pic of in the Tackle Purchase Thread: Quote
Super User gardnerjigman Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 DUDE. That looks so much like one of Speed's swimbaits that he posted a pic of in the Tackle Purchase Thread: Doh!!! No you ruined that secret that speed hates swimbaits!!!! Speed... your secret is out buddy lol. Might as well keep posting pictures of them fat girls! Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted May 21, 2015 Super User Posted May 21, 2015 This swimbait stuff is just too much to handle.... Give me Roboworms and some of those new fangled mushroom thingerz and I'm happy. Wayne, your posts always provide me with a good chuckle. You gotta try the Zman TRD on those mushroom thingerz though. It's money! 1 Quote
primetime Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 I kind of just like to collect swimbaits, I don't have the patience to throw them all day long, but I do throw them when I know big fish are in the area and I just wish I had the confidence to throw a huge bait all day long but I don't...I feel a 7" Jointed Red Fin or F-18 Rapala Minnow will get me more fish since they are thinner and lures I understand, but most people look at me like I am nuts when I pull up to a small public park with a Jointed Red Fin or Super Spook, but a big bass is not wasting energy on a small bait most of the time and I would agree that a bass colored swimbait makes the most sense or a smokey Joe color if you have gizzard shad or threadfin. Quote
FloridaBasser1 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Posted May 21, 2015 For the money, you can't beat the #Storm Live Kickin Shad - Quote
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