Kyle46N Posted May 24, 2015 Posted May 24, 2015 I want to pull the trigger on another one from American Legacy, but my rod is still on the truck..... Out for delivery yesterday morning, and fedex couldn't get it to my doorstep. I want to put my hands on it before I get another. By any chance, has anyone compared that 7'3" extra heavy that's still available to the 7'9" Heavy Veritas? That would be the replacement. I have the Veritas for punching right now, but it's a huge rod, and wears on ya throughout the day. If that Lews XH was lighter, I would replace it in a heart beat. Quote
WPCfishing Posted May 24, 2015 Author Posted May 24, 2015 I want to pull the trigger on another one from American Legacy, but my rod is still on the truck..... Out for delivery yesterday morning, and fedex couldn't get it to my doorstep. I want to put my hands on it before I get another. By any chance, has anyone compared that 7'3" extra heavy that's still available to the 7'9" Heavy Veritas? That would be the replacement. I have the Veritas for punching right now, but it's a huge rod, and wears on ya throughout the day. If that Lews XH was lighter, I would replace it in a heart beat. I haven't used either rod but I would say you're in the drivers seat with the Team Rod. It's not easy to compare the two rods. You have to try them. It's my opinion the Lews Team rod is light years beyond the Veritas in all categories. I don't think you would be making a mistake to buy the Team Rod at all.. Go for it if you're throwing at least a 1oz. bait. Otherwise consider a Lews Custom Speed Stick.. I have the Magum One. It's a fantastic rod. Call ALF and ask them to sell you one for $100.00. They are very accommodating. They have gracefully discounted a few items I bought from them this year. In fact they didn't have one of the items I wanted in stock so they ordered it for me and had it drop shipped at a discounted price. Hey they may be able to get you the Team Rod you had in mind. Only one way to find out. Call!. I'm fishing from 3-9 today.. Gonna give the Crankin Rod another go! Quote
MPM IV Posted May 24, 2015 Posted May 24, 2015 Guess what? I just bought another one... Lew's Team Lews HM85 Million Graphite 7' M Crankbait Casting Rod Length: 7'0" | Line: 10lb-25lb | Lure: 3/8oz- 1 oz | Power: Medium | Action: Moderate | MPN: TLCC70MHM I have to call ALF Monday to determine which rod they actually have.. Is it MM or MHM? Which do you recommend knowing I have the 6'6' MM 1/4-3/4? I just ordered this one as well. Thanks for the heads up. Would you guys pair this with a speed spool tournament or a quantum smoke reel? Thanks for any input. 1 Quote
chelboed Posted May 24, 2015 Posted May 24, 2015 I just ordered this one as well. Thanks for the heads up. Would you guys pair this with a speed spool tournament or a quantum smoke reel? Thanks for any input. If it's the crankbait rod...that's an easy answer. BB1 Pro multi stop Quote
WPCfishing Posted May 25, 2015 Author Posted May 25, 2015 I just ordered this one as well. Thanks for the heads up. Would you guys pair this with a speed spool tournament or a quantum smoke reel? Thanks for any input. The Tournament is a much smaller reel than the BB1. I wouldn't be worried about the multi stop with a Lews Team cranking rod at all. I'm using my: 6:4:1 Tourney pro. The rod does what it should. Get the Tourney reel. 6:4:1 by the way ALF has Touney Pro's for $139.00 right now. Note: I own 2 BB1 reels and a BB1 Pro... If you have big hands get a BB1 5:4:1 or 6:4:1 with ms or zero reverse. If you're in love with the Smoke get it. The rod won't care. Both reels are made in Korea. I prefer the Lews. Congrats!! Quote
hatrix Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 The American Legacy sale is the first time I saw these rods on sale for anywhere near $100, TW has them for $158.88 so if you got yours for $100 you did very well. I was wondering how that "palmer" reel seat was, the trigger is set back in order for all of your fingers to fit in front of it, I'm not sure if that would feel right for me. I am not sure if it is really set back any more then a normal trigger. I didn't know the trigger was like that when I got the rod and was kinda bummed to not have the option to put your fingers different. If you try to not palm it the keeper will scratch you and its just way uncomfortable. I like instantly hated it because of the trigger I usually only full palm when fishing plastics/jigs and sometimes low resistance baits and for sure not 3+ oz baits. The first few times I used it I would pick it up and forget and split the trigger and you know instantly cause the keeper on the trigger but now I might almost like it better. It has the longer handle I can tuck and with your whole hand under the reel you can really pick up on it with force. Thats the only round reel I had sitting around so you can see for a example 1 Quote
WPCfishing Posted May 25, 2015 Author Posted May 25, 2015 I am not sure if it is really set back any more then a normal trigger. I didn't know the trigger was like that when I got the rod and was kinda bummed to not have the option to put your fingers different. If you try to not palm it the keeper will scratch you and its just way uncomfortable. I like instantly hated it because of the trigger I usually only full palm when fishing plastics/jigs and sometimes low resistance baits and for sure not 3+ oz baits. The first few times I used it I would pick it up and forget and split the trigger and you know instantly cause the keeper on the trigger but now I might almost like it better. It has the longer handle I can tuck and with your whole hand under the reel you can really pick up on it with force. Thats the only round reel I had sitting around so you can see for a example That's a David Fritts model rod. I think the palm grip makes sense. I grip my reel most of the time no matter what bait I'm throwing. My new Team Rod is does not have that grip. Quote
masterbass Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 My 7'6" mhm has that grip. I haven't fished it yet, but it feels comfortable with my zillion. Quote
WPCfishing Posted May 25, 2015 Author Posted May 25, 2015 My 7'6" mhm has that grip. I haven't fished it yet, but it feels comfortable with my zillion. I don't think the 7' mm I ordered yesterday will have it? It doesn't show that grip in the pics or description. Did yours? Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted May 25, 2015 Super User Posted May 25, 2015 I don't think the 7' mm I ordered yesterday will have it? It doesn't show that grip in the pics or description. Did yours? The rod Hatrix has is an HM85, you can tell by the dark rings in the cork, the Fritts model doesn't have that. The cranking rods above 7' have the palmer reel seat so 6'6" and 7' like you got will have the regular reel seat but if you get a 7'6" or larger it will have the palmer reel seat. Quote
WPCfishing Posted May 25, 2015 Author Posted May 25, 2015 The rod Hatrix has is an HM85, you can tell by the dark rings in the cork, the Fritts model doesn't have that. The cranking rods above 7' have the palmer reel seat so 6'6" and 7' like you got will have the regular reel seat but if you get a 7'6" or larger it will have the palmer reel seat. I wasn't sure what year it was. I assumed it was a Fritts. Thanks for the info.. I bought a 6'6" last week. It's a great rod. The 7' should be here Thursday. Have you used a HM 85 7'MM? Quote
chelboed Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 That's the cranking model. There are 3 versions of this HM85 rod. Spinning, cranking, and the normal casting setup. The cranking model has the set back trigger, the casting doesn't. .. Quote
WPCfishing Posted May 25, 2015 Author Posted May 25, 2015 That's the cranking model. There are 3 versions of this HM85 rod. Spinning, cranking, and the normal casting setup. The cranking model has the set back trigger, the casting doesn't. The 6' 6'' mm cranking rod I bought did not have the palm grip. It's very comfortable. smalljaw just explained the rod grip offerings. The 7'6" and longer have the palm grip. Quote
WPCfishing Posted May 27, 2015 Author Posted May 27, 2015 I got lucky. The site showed this rod 7' MHM, # TLCC70MHM as sold out. I called and low and behold ALF had 2 left in stock. I have one paid for and in route.. Should be here Friday. Quote
SDbassin Posted May 27, 2015 Posted May 27, 2015 gosh, im literally drooling over hear looking at the pics. One of the benefits of living out in California, it can take about a week to get packages from the east coast, both of my rods are supposed to be here Friday. I just want to get out on the water already!!!!! 1 Quote
WPCfishing Posted May 27, 2015 Author Posted May 27, 2015 Just received a fed ex email. The TLCC70MHM is on its way here. Should deliver on Friday or Saturday. Quote
dan668 Posted May 27, 2015 Posted May 27, 2015 Anyone manage to snag a spinning rod? Looking for an all around use rod for my dad, unfortunately no mediums, not sure if the mh is too stiff. Quote
WPCfishing Posted May 28, 2015 Author Posted May 28, 2015 Anyone manage to snag a spinning rod? Looking for an all around use rod for my dad, unfortunately no mediums, not sure if the mh is too stiff. An all around rod should be an MH. Quote
dan668 Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 The lowest weight he tosses is a 1/4oz jig with a grub tail. Not sure a mh is favourable. Quote
WPCfishing Posted May 28, 2015 Author Posted May 28, 2015 The lowest weight he tosses is a 1/4oz jig with a grub tail. Not sure a mh is favourable. I never throw jigs with light or medium rods. Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted May 28, 2015 Super User Posted May 28, 2015 Anyone manage to snag a spinning rod? Looking for an all around use rod for my dad, unfortunately no mediums, not sure if the mh is too stiff. I got the 7' ML-F spinning rod, get that for your dad if they are still available. It is called a medium light but it is just Lews designation, in reality this is more of a medium power rod in my book. The rod is really nice, actually nice than what I expected and you aren't going to find guides that good an any rod of this price, if they are still available get one. 1 Quote
WPCfishing Posted May 28, 2015 Author Posted May 28, 2015 I got the 7' ML-F spinning rod, get that for your dad if they are still available. It is called a medium light but it is just Lews designation, in reality this is more of a medium power rod in my book. The rod is really nice, actually nice than what I expected and you aren't going to find guides that good an any rod of this price, if they are still available get one. For Jigs I like a heavier rod. At the price we're getting them for I say buy two. One of each. I called and asked if they could look to see if they had a 7" MHM left in stock since the site showed them as sold out. As luck would have it they had two. Ask for Adam or Brian if you call. They know what's going on with inventory. Quote
dan668 Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 Sweet, thanks for the input. Leaning slightly towards the mh as he uses it for pike, walleye and bass. Hes a very basic fisherman and doesnt want more than one rod. According to the line ratings, he shouldnt have to big of an issue throwing that jig Quote
dan668 Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 I'll definitely give them a call, maybe they can help finalize a decision. Quote
microotter Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 I got the 7' ML-F spinning rod, get that for your dad if they are still available. It is called a medium light but it is just Lews designation, in reality this is more of a medium power rod in my book. The rod is really nice, actually nice than what I expected and you aren't going to find guides that good an any rod of this price, if they are still available get one. Do you think that the ML would be a good choice to throw finesse jigs 1/8-1/4 oz and small crankbaits such as the rebel teeny craw? Quote
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